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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 93 points 3 days ago (4 children) Advertising yourself as: Bad at internal budgeting Full of yourself ... is a bold marketing strategy during an economic depression, for a freelance/contract worker. Best of luck Nat. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (2 children) … is a bold marketing strategy during an economic depression Never undersell the possibility that this person is lying. Or that this is a stock photo and the text is clickbait. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago It is. Last time I saw thisnpost, the photographer was different. permalink fedilink source parent [–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works -4 points 3 days ago Apparently her name is actually Kortney. But reality doesn't matter when a bunch of redditors get together to hate a woman permalink fedilink source parent [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 child) This is really taking a pretty harmless comment too seriously. The point is shit is expensive and clients want everything cheap. Any freelancer can relate to this particular framing. I used to have people want $300 websites and they didn't care that it would take potentially a week to build their site. Surely just abstractly we can all relate to shit being expensive though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Why did you delete this? It's true. No idea why someone downvoted this true but deleted comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) I initially thought I attached it to the wrong thread and reposted. https://vger.to/sh.itjust.works/comment/26999091 But yeah I'd only be real like that after I got to know them more during the initial introduction. If someone was just telling me what I was going to do without having a discussion about it, being an asshole or control freak. I'd eliminate the cheap for them and throw a high estimate because I just didn't want to deal with them for less. At that point I realized whatever I was going to estimate they were going to go way way out of scope on and easier if I just assumed that financially ahead or just didn't get the job. Overall I hated dealing with clients and the "marketing guru" jerk offs. So now I have a boring slower job with nice pay and if I do anything on the side, I got to be somewhat interested in it myself. The luxury is I can just hang up on those people now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 3 days ago (2 children) I mean she's got a point. I used to do web design and the number of people who reckoned that it should cost the equivalent of $40 was ridiculous. I'd required at least 10 times that just as compensation from having to work with shopify. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ch00f@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 child) One of the main reasons I got into hardware is because there's an inherent bias that digital things have no intrinsic value. Like, you might expect a calculator app to be free, but nobody expects a calculator to be free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (2 children) When doing websites. I always told people upfront, you can do it cheap, fast, or good. Pick two because all three doesn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago I’ve stopped asking people this. They ALWAYS pick cheap and good because fast is an unknown variable to them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Well technically you can have all three be met at the same time. The omly question you have to ask yourself is 'Are you as happy of the idea of slavery as most other capitalists are?' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) as long as it's at least an ocean away it fine™ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Offshoring and Unequal Exchange 101©®™ 😋👍 ☠️👎🏿 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) SaaS (slavery as a service) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago I guess you could say most people are SaaSsy 😘😅 permalink fedilink source parent [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago* (1 child) ... did you market yourself as a stuck up prick who can't budget well? Or did you maybe save that for some stage of contract negotiations? There are ways to dance the dance; hers seems to be the equivalent of loudly complain that no one is picking her to dance with because no one can afford her. Just not a good strategy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 3 days ago (1 child) Well I certainly found it was a good idea to not keep the customer in the dark about my prices. If I'm going to be expensive I might as well tell them outright, it's not like I'm going to get more customers if I led them on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 days ago Price transparency != Marketing strategy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tea_n_typewriters@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago Don’t you dare question Nat of “Insert Last Name Photography” of being bad at marketing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (2 children) … is a bold marketing strategy during an economic depression Never undersell the possibility that this person is lying. Or that this is a stock photo and the text is clickbait. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago It is. Last time I saw thisnpost, the photographer was different. permalink fedilink source parent [–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works -4 points 3 days ago Apparently her name is actually Kortney. But reality doesn't matter when a bunch of redditors get together to hate a woman permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago It is. Last time I saw thisnpost, the photographer was different. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works -4 points 3 days ago Apparently her name is actually Kortney. But reality doesn't matter when a bunch of redditors get together to hate a woman permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 child) This is really taking a pretty harmless comment too seriously. The point is shit is expensive and clients want everything cheap. Any freelancer can relate to this particular framing. I used to have people want $300 websites and they didn't care that it would take potentially a week to build their site. Surely just abstractly we can all relate to shit being expensive though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Why did you delete this? It's true. No idea why someone downvoted this true but deleted comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) I initially thought I attached it to the wrong thread and reposted. https://vger.to/sh.itjust.works/comment/26999091 But yeah I'd only be real like that after I got to know them more during the initial introduction. If someone was just telling me what I was going to do without having a discussion about it, being an asshole or control freak. I'd eliminate the cheap for them and throw a high estimate because I just didn't want to deal with them for less. At that point I realized whatever I was going to estimate they were going to go way way out of scope on and easier if I just assumed that financially ahead or just didn't get the job. Overall I hated dealing with clients and the "marketing guru" jerk offs. So now I have a boring slower job with nice pay and if I do anything on the side, I got to be somewhat interested in it myself. The luxury is I can just hang up on those people now. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Why did you delete this? It's true. No idea why someone downvoted this true but deleted comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) I initially thought I attached it to the wrong thread and reposted. https://vger.to/sh.itjust.works/comment/26999091 But yeah I'd only be real like that after I got to know them more during the initial introduction. If someone was just telling me what I was going to do without having a discussion about it, being an asshole or control freak. I'd eliminate the cheap for them and throw a high estimate because I just didn't want to deal with them for less. At that point I realized whatever I was going to estimate they were going to go way way out of scope on and easier if I just assumed that financially ahead or just didn't get the job. Overall I hated dealing with clients and the "marketing guru" jerk offs. So now I have a boring slower job with nice pay and if I do anything on the side, I got to be somewhat interested in it myself. The luxury is I can just hang up on those people now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Why did you delete this? It's true. No idea why someone downvoted this true but deleted comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) I initially thought I attached it to the wrong thread and reposted. https://vger.to/sh.itjust.works/comment/26999091 But yeah I'd only be real like that after I got to know them more during the initial introduction. If someone was just telling me what I was going to do without having a discussion about it, being an asshole or control freak. I'd eliminate the cheap for them and throw a high estimate because I just didn't want to deal with them for less. At that point I realized whatever I was going to estimate they were going to go way way out of scope on and easier if I just assumed that financially ahead or just didn't get the job. Overall I hated dealing with clients and the "marketing guru" jerk offs. So now I have a boring slower job with nice pay and if I do anything on the side, I got to be somewhat interested in it myself. The luxury is I can just hang up on those people now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) I initially thought I attached it to the wrong thread and reposted. https://vger.to/sh.itjust.works/comment/26999091 But yeah I'd only be real like that after I got to know them more during the initial introduction. If someone was just telling me what I was going to do without having a discussion about it, being an asshole or control freak. I'd eliminate the cheap for them and throw a high estimate because I just didn't want to deal with them for less. At that point I realized whatever I was going to estimate they were going to go way way out of scope on and easier if I just assumed that financially ahead or just didn't get the job. Overall I hated dealing with clients and the "marketing guru" jerk offs. So now I have a boring slower job with nice pay and if I do anything on the side, I got to be somewhat interested in it myself. The luxury is I can just hang up on those people now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 3 days ago (2 children) I mean she's got a point. I used to do web design and the number of people who reckoned that it should cost the equivalent of $40 was ridiculous. I'd required at least 10 times that just as compensation from having to work with shopify. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ch00f@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 child) One of the main reasons I got into hardware is because there's an inherent bias that digital things have no intrinsic value. Like, you might expect a calculator app to be free, but nobody expects a calculator to be free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (2 children) When doing websites. I always told people upfront, you can do it cheap, fast, or good. Pick two because all three doesn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago I’ve stopped asking people this. They ALWAYS pick cheap and good because fast is an unknown variable to them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Well technically you can have all three be met at the same time. The omly question you have to ask yourself is 'Are you as happy of the idea of slavery as most other capitalists are?' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) as long as it's at least an ocean away it fine™ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Offshoring and Unequal Exchange 101©®™ 😋👍 ☠️👎🏿 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) SaaS (slavery as a service) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago I guess you could say most people are SaaSsy 😘😅 permalink fedilink source parent [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago* (1 child) ... did you market yourself as a stuck up prick who can't budget well? Or did you maybe save that for some stage of contract negotiations? There are ways to dance the dance; hers seems to be the equivalent of loudly complain that no one is picking her to dance with because no one can afford her. Just not a good strategy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 3 days ago (1 child) Well I certainly found it was a good idea to not keep the customer in the dark about my prices. If I'm going to be expensive I might as well tell them outright, it's not like I'm going to get more customers if I led them on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 days ago Price transparency != Marketing strategy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 child) One of the main reasons I got into hardware is because there's an inherent bias that digital things have no intrinsic value. Like, you might expect a calculator app to be free, but nobody expects a calculator to be free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (2 children) When doing websites. I always told people upfront, you can do it cheap, fast, or good. Pick two because all three doesn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago I’ve stopped asking people this. They ALWAYS pick cheap and good because fast is an unknown variable to them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Well technically you can have all three be met at the same time. The omly question you have to ask yourself is 'Are you as happy of the idea of slavery as most other capitalists are?' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) as long as it's at least an ocean away it fine™ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Offshoring and Unequal Exchange 101©®™ 😋👍 ☠️👎🏿 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) SaaS (slavery as a service) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago I guess you could say most people are SaaSsy 😘😅 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (2 children) When doing websites. I always told people upfront, you can do it cheap, fast, or good. Pick two because all three doesn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago I’ve stopped asking people this. They ALWAYS pick cheap and good because fast is an unknown variable to them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Well technically you can have all three be met at the same time. The omly question you have to ask yourself is 'Are you as happy of the idea of slavery as most other capitalists are?' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) as long as it's at least an ocean away it fine™ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Offshoring and Unequal Exchange 101©®™ 😋👍 ☠️👎🏿 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) SaaS (slavery as a service) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago I guess you could say most people are SaaSsy 😘😅 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago I’ve stopped asking people this. They ALWAYS pick cheap and good because fast is an unknown variable to them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Well technically you can have all three be met at the same time. The omly question you have to ask yourself is 'Are you as happy of the idea of slavery as most other capitalists are?' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) as long as it's at least an ocean away it fine™ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Offshoring and Unequal Exchange 101©®™ 😋👍 ☠️👎🏿 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) SaaS (slavery as a service) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago I guess you could say most people are SaaSsy 😘😅 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) as long as it's at least an ocean away it fine™ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Offshoring and Unequal Exchange 101©®™ 😋👍 ☠️👎🏿 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) SaaS (slavery as a service) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago I guess you could say most people are SaaSsy 😘😅 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Offshoring and Unequal Exchange 101©®™ 😋👍 ☠️👎🏿 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) SaaS (slavery as a service) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago I guess you could say most people are SaaSsy 😘😅 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) SaaS (slavery as a service) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago I guess you could say most people are SaaSsy 😘😅 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago I guess you could say most people are SaaSsy 😘😅 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago* (1 child) ... did you market yourself as a stuck up prick who can't budget well? Or did you maybe save that for some stage of contract negotiations? There are ways to dance the dance; hers seems to be the equivalent of loudly complain that no one is picking her to dance with because no one can afford her. Just not a good strategy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 3 days ago (1 child) Well I certainly found it was a good idea to not keep the customer in the dark about my prices. If I'm going to be expensive I might as well tell them outright, it's not like I'm going to get more customers if I led them on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 days ago Price transparency != Marketing strategy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 3 days ago (1 child) Well I certainly found it was a good idea to not keep the customer in the dark about my prices. If I'm going to be expensive I might as well tell them outright, it's not like I'm going to get more customers if I led them on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 days ago Price transparency != Marketing strategy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 days ago Price transparency != Marketing strategy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tea_n_typewriters@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago Don’t you dare question Nat of “Insert Last Name Photography” of being bad at marketing. permalink fedilink source parent