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at this point in time, the reverberations of the enormous movement of peoples and technologies caused by ww2 must reach nearly every person alive. whoever goes back in time to kill hitler will almost certainly cease to exist when a grandfather doesn't fight overseas or get displaced to a new country where they met the grandmother.

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[-] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Better argument then "the nazis would rise anyway with a more competent leader" something I'm very skeptical of. Sure there were extreme material problems with the Weimer Republic but the Nazi's before hitler weren't what they would become I could see it going a bunch of ways. The Weimer could suvive and reform or toddle along, a communist revolution, a fascist one but more a Mussolini copycat then the nazis or the generals take defacto control and form a military dominated state. Without Hitler and his oratory and direction I don't see the nazi's rising in a reconizable form.

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

I'm pretty sure that even without Hitler the proto-Nazi party was already way more racist than Mussolini was before Mussolini got even more racist to pander to the Nazis, etc., and there were lots of others who were interested in the narratives about Aryans and so on, plus the existing antisemitism movements and the rest of it.

The real issue is that of Hitler had such a big divide with the other leadership, it's very unlikely that he would have gotten in charge and stayed in charge, even if whoever the alternate timeliness Hitler is would not have been literally identical.

[-] Speaker@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

Synthesis: go back in time and, using your knowledge of past and future, espouse viewpoints so esoterically racist that Hitler and Mussolini both have to pander to you, but keep switching things up and getting more obtuse with it so that both parties are defanged by constant infighting and splitting before gaining any real power. We can only defeat fascism with leftism's true superpower, obviously.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 2 points 17 hours ago

Instead of killing baby Hitler I'd go to just after the war ended and give Stalin everything he needs to avoid the collapse of the USSR and fight back against the capitalist West.

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