72
submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Dort_Owl@hexbear.net to c/neurodiverse@hexbear.net

There was a recent wrecker post that did this a lot. It comes across as reactionary to me but sometimes I see leftists doing it too. Nerd culture being associated with being childish/nostalgic and easily exploited by sanitised consumption, etc.

As an autistic person who sometimes gets hyperfixations that could be seen as childish, it feels gross to have people paint these hobbies as some kind of uniquely hyperconsumerist thing, because 90% of the time it's just because the hobby is seen as childish and/or neurodivergent coded.

For example: I was hyperfixated on gardening for a while. It was expensive, really hard to do ethically and the industry itself is massively corporate and responsible for some of the biggest environmental problems today. It's a nice little escapist hobby where you can turn your mind off while you pretend you aren't fucking up your local biome because Monsanto decided it would sell more soil wetter, plant disease cures and fertilizer ifs product kills the soils ability to self regulate. I tried to do it the organic permaculture way, ended up being too expensive and half of the products were not in fact as ethical as they pretended to be. Also I have a degree in Ecology, most gardners don't have that luxury and are not trained how to garden ethically. Never once have I ever seen anyone call gardening a vapid corporate hobby or expressed concern that I was using my fake little biome to escape from the real world. Never once have I been lumped in with the same people who invented DDT. Because it's a socially acceptable hobby for a well adjusted adult to have.

I can't say the same for when I had a Pokemon hyperfixation. It was a relatively cheap hobby, I mostly just played the games and the rom hacks were fun. But I stopped because who wants to be associated with grown ass adults waiting in line for cards and playing a childrens game! They must be mentally ill in some way, right? Now adults who still like a hobby they grew up with get put into the same camp as Harry Potter fans, who we have apparently now have decided are bad because Harry Potter is childish and whimsical, not because the writer is a racist transphobe.

Just something that mulls over in my head sometimes, because social dynamics that make no sense to me are another thing I like to fixate on and dissect for fun. I tend to see how the flow of popular narratives can manipulate people into adopting reactionary talking points. All you have to do is trojan something onto a socially acceptable target without outright saying the target and you have even leftists redirected to attack a target that the right want dead. People are funny.

Thanks for reading my weird rant. I could just be coming across as insecure and making myself an easy target for wreckers to get a rant from, but eh who cares if I get a reputation as someone easily baited by this subject. Someones gotta deconstruct this kind of thing so it might as well be me.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

gardening vs Pokemon

I don't think these two are equivalent at all. One is mostly a hobby about creation while the other is split between creation and consumption. The real divide is not childish vs adult^TM^ hobbies but between the act of creation and consumption.

Humans all carry within them a creative spark. This creative spark is a reflection of our inner world that can be expressed outside of ourselves and shared with others through art among other things. It has nothing to do with childish vs adult^TM^ because young children are extraordinarily creative. What happens is that they get beaten down and have that creative spark snuffed out of them (they can never fully snuff out that creative spark because the creative spark is just part of the human condition). NDs know this process very well, but even NT children suffer from this. The end result is that only a select few get to be called artists^TM^ while everyone else is an untalented unrefined pleb whose only destiny is to consume slop. Artists^TM^ are being replaced with AI^TM^, so now the slop isn't even made with human hands, a further attempt at snuffing out the creative spark.

What's so important about nurturing and cultivating this creative spark? Well, how are you supposed to create a better world if you lack any real capacity and drive to create anything? How does one nurture and cultivate this creative spark? Simple, by creating things. It can be through art. It can be through DIY projects. It's through trial and error in creating things that the creative spark can be tapped into. Of course, the first projects will be a complete trainwreck and the first paintings will look completely fugly and the first poems will be borderline unreadable. That's just part of the creative process. You start out sucking and as you persevere, you suck less and less until one day you discover that you don't suck a whole lot and haven't sucked at all for a while. And just as you create art, the art is also shaping you. It's a dialectical relationship after all. You are not the same person after painting your 1000th painting or designing your 10th romhack and writing your 5th novel and so on.

In the vast majority of these conversations here and elsewhere, it always people being judgmental about what type of art is being consumed, but from my perspective, it's all consumption in the end. Childish art, adult^TM^ art, silly art, edgy art, whatever. Consuming terrible Sonic fanfic isn't a whole lot different from consuming the entire work of Goethe no matter how people who are really invested in Goethe insist otherwise. But do you know what's completely different from consuming terrible Sonic fanfic or the entire work of Goethe? Writing that terrible Sonic fanfic.

[-] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I totally agree for the most part except that Gardening has been made massively consumerist and wasteful by capitalism and the fertalizer industry with their products designed to fuck up your soil and plants if you don't buy them periodically

That and the consumption of even slop can involve being creative, and can inspire creation. Half the reason I'm any good at art is from drawing Pokemon as a kid. But considering you mentioned fan fiction you probably already meant that and I'm just being dumb again lol

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago

the fertalizer industry with their products designed to fuck up your soil and plants if you don't buy them periodically

Damn, capitalists really ruin everything. How do they fuck up the soil and plants?

That and the consumption of even slop can involve being creative, and can inspire creation.

There's also the fact that creating art just makes you appreciate art, even artforms that you have no experience creating, in a completely different light. That and a completely seething contempt for AI^TM^ art^TM^.

[-] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah I could go into great detail about how Monsanto in particular has fucked our food crops with their practices. It's pretty depressing though. Basically a lot of different bad things but a major one is that they genetically engineered most of the wests food crops to only work with their products. But yeah a lot of gardening products straight up kill the soil if you stop using them. It's bad where farms stop constantly using fertilizers the land goes barren because the fertilizers kill the soils biome that would make it self sustaining. Also the phosphates from the gardening products people and farms use get into lakes and rivers and cause all those lovely algae blooms that cause oxygen crashes and kill everything in the water.

But yeah fuck AI

this post was submitted on 12 Aug 2026
72 points (96.2% liked)

neurodiverse

2005 readers
13 users here now

What is Neurodivergence?

It's ADHD, Autism, OCD, schizophrenia, anxiety, depression, bi-polar, aspd, etc etc etc etc

“neurologically atypical patterns of thought or behavior”

So, it’s very broad, if you feel like it describes you then it does as far as we're concerned


Rules

1.) ableist language=post or comment will probably get removed (enforced case by case, some comments will be removed and restored due to complex situations). repeated use of ableist language=banned from comm and possibly site depending on severity. properly tagged posts with CW can use them for the purposes of discussing them

2.) always assume good faith when dealing with a fellow nd comrade especially due to lack of social awareness being a common symptom of neurodivergence

2.5) right to disengage is rigidly enforced. violations will get you purged from the comm. see rule 3 for explanation on appeals

3.) no talking over nd comrades about things you haven't personally experienced as a neurotypical chapo, you will be purged. If you're ND it is absolutely fine to give your own perspective if it conflicts with another's, but do so with empathy and the intention to learn about each other, not prove who's experience is valid. Appeal process is like appealing in user union but you dm the nd comrade you talked over with your appeal (so make it a good one) and then dm the mods with screenshot proof that you resolved it. fake screenies will get you banned from the site, we will confirm with the comrade you dm'd.

3.5) everyone has their own lived experiences, and to invalidate them is to post cringe. comments will be removed on a case by case basis depending on determined level of awareness and faith

4.) Interest Policing will not be tolerated in any form. Support your comrades in their joy!

Further rules to be added/ rules to be changed based on community input

RULES NOTE: For this community more than most we understand that the clarity and understandability of these rules is very important for allowing folks to feel comfortable, to that end please don't be afraid to be outspoken about amendments and addendums to these rules, as well as any we may have missed

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS