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[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I'm kinda just tired of this conversation

Is that why you came in here and wrote two paragraphs only just barely tangentially related to the article?

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Pretty small paragraphs. Took me a whopping 15 seconds for the entire comment cuz I'm on a computer and stuck at work. Rest assured, I wouldn't be bothering if it was a weekend. You can check my comments. I don't do social media on weekends.

I guess I care enough to tell people there are some benefits to circumcision and to stop worrying about it and focus on topics that actually matter. It's very much a "social justice warrior" type thing to give a shit about.

[-] uen3@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 hours ago

And "social justice warriors" are very much a "fucking chud" thing to give shit about.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Are you sure you don't want to argue about it more? You really have a lot of "I want to argue about it" energy.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

What's to argue? My dick is easier to deal with because it's circumcised. It may not be a lot easier, but it's easier nonetheless. And never once in my life have I suffered repercussions from a procedure I don't even remember.

The argument against is that it's done without the permission of the individual. But that's a stupid argument because all sorts of body decisions are made for us without our permission by our guardians as we grow up. Do you think no one should get braces as a child and the decision should be made when they're adults when it's way harder and takes way longer to re-adjust adult teeth? Do you think children shouldn't be vaccinated at all and that it should only be done once they're adults?

That dumb argument may fly if there were NO benefits to circumcision AT ALL. But there are.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Alright, you definitely want to argue. Let's lock it in.

My dick is easier to deal with because it’s circumcised.

This is going to shock you, I'm sure, but you must also wash your circumcised dick, and procedure is is roughly the same... Water, soap, rinse dry, whether you've got a foreskin or not. If it takes an extra 2 seconds to wash the extra bits of an uncircumcised penis, the the lifetime "extra cleaning" penalty of not having part of your penis lopped off is ~15 hours. Congrats, we're mangling children at birth to save 15 hrs of their life. What are you doing with those 15 hours? Because from the looks of it, you spent that much time crafting half-assed replies about how you're "so tired of arguing" for circumcisions.

The argument against is that it’s done without the permission of the individual.

No, that's your argument against it. The actual argument against it is that genital mutilation of a baby is wrong, full stop. Let's be clear here as well, medically necessary procedures are not genital mutilation, and gender affirming care when done with the knowledge and consent of the subject is not genital mutilation either.

all sorts of body decisions are made for us without our permission by our guardians as we grow up...

Absolutely, part of being a parent is making informed decisions for your child that they are incapable of making. Vaccines are medically necessary, and the parent(s) should be getting their child vaccinated. Braces, are frequently necessary for proper articulation, and properly aligned teeth last longer and make it easier to eat (ask me why I know this), and while not all cases of braces may be medically necessary, you'll note that we aren't gluing orthodontic devices in the mouths of newborns that can't resist the procedure. If you take a child to an orthodontist, and the child pitches a fit, refuses to open their mouth, and in general resists the procedure, I guarantee you, the orthodontist will not treat them, even if the parents come in and physically restrain the child. Your two, (rather shitty) examples simply do not support your claim that other medically unnecessary body-altering procedures are okay to inflict on people who are physically, mentally, and socially unable to resist.

That dumb argument may fly if there were NO benefits to circumcision AT ALL. But there are.

Let's add another layer to it. Do you condone Female Genital Mutilation (FGM)? Do you think it's not a big deal? I promise you, any reason you can find to support circumcisions, I can use to support FGM. If you support cirucmcison on the same grounds, then you must support FGM by the same logic, unless you think the only thing that determines if a procedure is genital mutilation depends entirely on if the gentials are attached to a boy, or if they are attached to a girl.

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