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Count Binface: 'Decide if Farage is more establishment than me'
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The way you libs always find some tortured way to make everything about Russia is fascinating.
The way you folks get so triggered anytime anyone says anything about Russia is fascinating.
Torture, like the kind I'm subjected to when I remember that Drumpf is the president?
I'm a liberal, you're a tankie, hurray everyone's labelled now nobody has to think. Back to memes and hating life.
Okay, I called you a liberal because that is what you clearly are based on observation of your swallowing US state department talking points uncritically. But why do you call me a tankie? Is it a tankie thing to point out the west's weird obsession with everything being a Russian plot or Russia being supposedly desperate for bodies for their asiatic hordes and human wave tactics?
Is it a tankie thing to point out that the US backed Nazi infested Ukraine government is pressganging people off the street into an unwinnable ware against an overwhelmingly superior force?
Is it a tankie thing to point out that if Russia was the genocidal boogey man that liberals depict it as that they would have flattened all of Ukraine and done the genocide you all accuse them of?
Is it a tankie thing to point out that all your leaders are complicit in this imperialist nightmare even your fav socdem politicians?
Is it a tankie thing if I support the right of self determination for people in the Donbas who have been subject to literal pogroms for over 10 years?
Honestly I will give you one point: Russia is not serious about denazification because if they were they would have intervened in 2014 when the US and NATO backed Nazi coup happened.
If basic understanding of reality makes me a tankie, so be it. Or you could just look at my pfp idk.
You people don't even recognize when you are treading down the same nationalist path that other fascists have done time and again.
Lmao, you actually believe the Russian military is capable of that? They couldn't take Kyiv even before they had to started reusing WW2 equipment.
Have you compared the industrial capacity of Ukraine compared to Russia? Do you really believe that a nation that much smaller is actually winning?
If Russia was the genocidal force you claim they are they could have literally glassed Ukraine without consequence. The reality is that that privelege is only afford to western backed powers like Israel.
What a myopic view on warfare, "big country big, eat smaller country", because a smaller country has never repelled an industrially superior foe before. I honestly don't know how you can look at the current situation and think Russia is doing well. Why aren't they using that industrial capacity to build enough air defence to stop the drone attacks on their oil refineries? They've been happening for a year now, it should be easy for Russia and it's well managed, large indusial capacity, right?
Oh no I've been pressganged into an unwinnable debate by the CIA, the facts and logic are tearing me apaaart aieee
Can you explain what about China is imperial? They haven't invaded anybody or overthrown any foreign governments. What's your qualification?
Motherfucker you don't even know what a tankie fucking is
Could it be because the US is a massive hegemonic empire whose tendrils reach into all the world's politics?
China is not "imperial" that is absurd. Russia may have nationalist reactionary ambitions but their position in opposition to the greater evil that is the US is why there is critical support among some on the left. Russia does not have a massive global financial apparatus including hundreds of NGOs and finance capital used to impose extractivist policies on subjects around the world.
Neither China nor Russia have even a tenth of a percent of the US 800+ overseas military installations.
Nobody is looking up to Russia and calling China a "shithole" is just racist white supremacist brainworms, which you proved yet again.
It might be a tankie thing to change the subject ten times in one reply like I've never heard of a gish gallop. First they laugh at you, as they say - sometimes you just leave it at that.
How am I the one changing the subject when I just asked why you weirdos are so obsessed with bringing up Russia in entirely unrelated threads?
Hardly unrelated, reform (and it's predecessors) have a long history with Russian money.
It's not unrelated, as the other person mentioned. And on a closer inspection you changed the subject six times.
All of this gnashing of teeth from you because I made one joke about Farage's crooked campaign finance, and somehow I'm the weirdo?
Fuck it. Let's call this one a wash and hopefully next time we'll be able to take each other more seriously. None of this conversation seems salvageable at this point, sorry to have bothered you.