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The Spanish government said on Thursday that it would deploy the army to Ceuta to reinforce security after the crossings, which saw many migrants swim around the border to reach the territory.

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[-] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

Europeans are happy to point and laugh at American racists.

But then moment some Africans cross the border their tune changes.

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Don't mention the Roma either...

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 9 hours ago

The difference is, most Americans themselves are descended from immigrants. We also don't really laugh at the prevention of illegal immigration either when it is done sensibly.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

We're all immigrants if one goes back far enough.

[-] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Boy do I have bad news for you about the history of England.

[-] Denixen@feddit.nu 0 points 4 hours ago

So when Europeans migrated to Africa in the 1800s and did as they pleased, following no local laws or rules, that was cool too?

[-] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

The people migranting to Spain have to follow local laws, much better than when Europeans colonized Africa.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 9 hours ago

People dripping in from the continent over hundreds of years isn't the same as a sudden influx hopping a continent and causing smallpox to wipe out the locals

[-] bjc@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 8 hours ago

“sensibly”

are you american?

oh no, here we say “the right way”

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 7 hours ago

Don't you lot kidnap non whites off the street and if you're wrong about their legality, punish them anyway for "resisting arrest"

[-] bjc@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 1 hour ago

what else are you supposed to do when things aren't done properly? it's just common sense. not racist. the migrant crisis in europe proves that, surely. i just love to look across the pond at some of their creative ideas for how to deal with people who just refuse to do things the right way. if only we also had a large sea we could just let them drown in, instead of having to spend so much money after they get here. clever stuff there from enlightened europe!

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 8 hours ago

Some ways are more sensible than others, but the whole concept of illegal immigration emerged from racists trying to maintain their racial purity so it's fundamentally flawed from the get go.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 7 hours ago

It depends how you look at it. Generally people respect the autonomy of native americans. I think racial purity is stupid, but different cultures do have different social systems, more diverse than what we realise. Generally, integration is a good thing rather than a free-for-all.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 6 hours ago

Generally people respect the autonomy of native americans

Uh... not really but sure? It's not the native Americans that started controlling immigration; it was white Americans.

but different cultures do have different social systems, more diverse than what we realise.

And this, a complete non-issue for the vast majority of human history, suddenly became a massive problem just as developed countries were getting worried about lesser races compromising their racial purity. Yeah, right.

Less sarcastically, what you're presenting is one of multiple competing rebrandings for a system that is ultimately about racial purity. That's how it started and it was never meaningfully reformed from there.

[-] Akh@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

I am not sure this counts as a border

[-] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

If European countries don't want weird borders that include parts of Africa, they should give the land back.

Also without said colonies there's nowhere for facist general to overthrow your democracy from.

[-] Visstix@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Yeah I had no idea that place even existed.. why do they even have that chunk? I thought they swam all the way to mainland spain.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 8 hours ago

The reconquista. When Christian Spanish kingdoms were conquering Muslim Iberia they took part of North Africa with it, as a treat, and just kept it since. The (honestly kinda sensible) Spanish position is these are core Spanish territories that simply happen to be in Africa rather than colonial territories that should be given back. Historically the Spain (or equivalents)-Morocco (or equivalents) border has been pretty fluid, so there's no reason per se that "Africans stay in Africa, Europeans stay in Europe" should hold here, but in that case they don't get to complain about having a land border with their former colonies.

[-] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Nah if they swam to the mainland they'd probably be given visas and conscripted into the Olympic team.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 9 hours ago

Give your land back to the native Americans

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Kick all the Normans out of England too...

[-] Tango@piefed.ca -1 points 11 hours ago

Also without said word colonies there’s nowhere for facist general to overthrow your democracy from.

Has anyone really been far, even as decided, to use even go want to do look more like?

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