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submitted 15 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) by ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net to c/linux@programming.dev

cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/64896415

For additional context, here's Brian's previous blog post about the first preview release of Xfwl4, where he describes his history with Xfce and the sponsorship.

https://www.spurint.org/journal/2026/06/xfwl4s-first-preview-release

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[-] sicktriple@programming.dev 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Linux kernel devs use AI. This post is clearly that XFCE and Brian Tarricone are bad because AI bad. It is therefore hypocritical for commenters in this thread to continue using the Linux kernel if they are going to apply this standard consistently.

[-] lil_baka@ani.social 4 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, but with Linux Kernel there is no choice. So people who are against AI can be unhappy with Linux Kernel as well but they only can choose to use alternative to Xfce but not to Linux Kernel. For now they can express their annoyance about it being allowed in kernel and hope that some day policy gets changed there as well. I don't see any moral inconsistency here.

[-] zeezee@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 hours ago
[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

AFAIK, they are wisely not accepting AI code contributions over licensing concerns.

The issue is the lack of software support overall. It's possible to use BSD, but quite limiting.

Haiku OS also decided against accepting AI code for the same reasoning (though that is even more limited, and doesn't support a wide range of hardware, I believe).

[-] lil_baka@ani.social 3 points 7 hours ago

Doesn't seem to be full-featured alternative for desktops:

I guess it can be hard if possible at all to use apps like Blender, Krita, etc. Also, I'm getting quite used to Portage and Gentoo FreeBSD project is obsolete and unsupported now so it would be very risky to try to run it with FreeBSD kernel.

[-] zeezee@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

tbf as the other commenter pointed out FreeBSD might introduce slop at any point even if they're holding off for now so I wouldn't put my eggs in that basket

also steam definitely uses AI for development (so does Blender as well as KDE stuff like Krita) so you really should be avoiding them anyways

fortunately we're blessed to exist at the same time as 9front that's actually taken a stance on being free of slop <3

for art things paint(1) is an amazing drawing tool and if you're into gaming there's timeless classics like pokemon, doom and wipeout

also the OS is still being actively developed by very passionate people that truly care about software so supporting one of the last bastions of hope against clankers just makes you feel giggly and good ^°^

[-] lil_baka@ani.social 2 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, there are many places where it's possible to draw the line, and I personally wouldn't go into extreme self-sabotage for something like this. So, if there are few dozens alternative DE/WMs that do absolutely the same thing but are not vibecoded, it's very little effort to switch using those, but if you literally have to give up on your whole system stack or even your whole hobby because of Krita or Blender or Linux Kernel accepting AI assisted code, that's just too much.

[-] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 hours ago

It is still offtopic.

this post was submitted on 29 Jul 2026
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