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truly have never understood porn with a story. it's so fuckin cheesey, just bang.
I think porn should also aspire to be deeply affecting art. That gives you new kinks.
Absolute cinema.
Look here, Ursula Le Guin's Left Hand of Darkness is fucking art! :nerd:
Alfie
look sometimes you have some lemons stolen from your lemon tree and you want something relatable to blow off steam
Look sometimes the sex is just hotter when you take time to establish the stakes. It's like how action scenes are more exciting when you know why the characters are trying to kill each other.
The fact that "being invested in the character we're watching fuck enhances the experience" is a bold, out-there concept is kinda sad.
I think "porn isn't art" is to a degree a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Easy prophecy to break if you're just a little brave
but american and more generally western society is so sex-negative it's not surprising most people don't...
Apropos of nothing, I must leave this thread to stand watch over my lemon tree. There have been many accounts of lemon theft from promiscuous women lately.
Please please please be more careful with your language around trans people! I get that you're trying to speak sensitively and you're sharing your (rather relevant) personal experience about the types of porn trans people like, but holy shit your use of the terms "AMAB" and "AFAB" are so, so bad in these comments of yours.
For one thing, you don't even mean AMAB when you say AMAB, because you go on to clarify that you're well aware that trans women (almost all of whom would have been assigned male at birth) tend to love written erotica with decent plots, which you've claimed is more often enjoyed by "AFABs"! So here you actually seem to mean "women prefer erotica with plot, men prefer straightforward visual porn", which is not at all what you said.
Then your next comment below seems to be comparing trans and cis men, so just say that! Don't bring in language about people's assigned gender at birth if you don't need to!
In fact, more generally, for anyone reading this, please remove the terms "AFAB" and "AMAB" from your vocabulary. There are vanishingly few times when using these terms is acceptable. Most of the time it's just transphobia.
Another instance of "we have to put AFAB amd AMAB up on the shelf until cis people learn to behave about it" I trust?
I need to contest your idea regarding there being different porn preferences based on assigned gender at birth.
Beyond the fact that I don't know what the mechanism would be for that, given ones assigned sex/gender is something social, not biological, I can tell you from experience that porn with plot and written erotica is EXTREMELY popular in Transfem spaces. Like, overwhelmingly, in addition to a general preference for drawn/animated pornography instead of live action stuff.
Yeah, that's been my experience too actually. I do write for a lot of trans people personally (probably at least half of my stuff LOL) and that very much aligns with my experiences, I was just using imprecise language a bit there. I get specifically commissioned to write stuff for individuals, and from that perspective I feel like I have definitely noticed a gap between the tastes of specifically cis men and non-cis men who I have worked for, to a degree where, while I can't imagine there's one single neat explanation behind it, I feel like it can't just be down to culture. I probably chose to phrase it that way specifically because the AFAB people I know just mention that it takes a lot longer to, you know, pleasure themselves, and I figure the process taking longer and being more finnicky and difficult is probably one of several contributors to these different consumption patterns. Also, wasn't really speaking about live action vs. animation at all in that regard, I think that's kind of an orthogonal discussion. Plenty of drawn and animated stuff still fits into that "immediate, visual-focused gratification" category just as neatly as filmed pornography.
Yeah i unfortunately have to elaborate on this because it has become such a common mistake that i see being made all the time.
Please do not ever use AFAB and AMAB to refer to people. Nobody is "an AMAB person", let's just spell it out to see what happens: "an assigned male at birth person" obviously is not a correct English term, whereas "a person who was assigned male at birth" is. But saying "an AMAB person" or "AFAB only housing" (another transphobia classic) does not produce a grammatically correct phrase when you spell out the acronym.
That is because you, like almost everybody else, are misappropriating the term. Intersex people came up with these terms to specifically refer to a process, not a person: the process of using anatomy-based heuristics to sex people after birth. That's the one thing AMAB and AFAB were designed to reference, and it's the only thing it does right reliably, which means it has extremely limited uses.
Out of all gender-related terms, AMAB and AFAB are probably the least versatille and most specific. In this case, it's better to just say "women", as you have noticed by yourself at this point. It's ok to just subsume trans women under women in almost any case, as we are, in fact, women and want to be recognized as such. I can not only live with being lumped in with cis women, in more than 90% of all cases it is precisely what i want. There are obviously exceptions that usually appear either in medical contexts or when we specifically talk about trans experiences, or when it is necessary to also include other gender variant groups.
This isn't true. More precisely, it varies so much from person to person that any generalizations here are useless.
I'm transmasc and it doesn't take me any longer (on average) to cum than it takes my partner, who is a cis man. When I was in college talking to my (female) friend about her and her boyfriend's sex life, her continual complaint was that it took him forever to cum. She could cum quick and easy, but he took forever.
So I don't have any data here (if anyone does, please share!), but every bit of anecdotal evidence from my life is that it's a myth that people with dicks cum quicker than people with pussies. It varies hugely from person to person.
So any difference in porn habits between trans and cis men seems, to me, like it would stem from the way we are treated by society than anything to do with anatomy.
What I'm getting from this is, we need some hollywood-level production quality pornos to really get something good.
I'm surprised it doesn't exist yet, to be honest.
They exist and always have. It's just that we've moved to a platform model and most of our porn sites are more like the YouTube of smut than the Netflix. You can absolutely find stuff with actual cinematography and special FX, including in modern resolutions, but the market clearly favors an influencer approach in getting people to pay for individual media than a hollywood approach.
Also to be clear most of the money in those big budget productions is just finding ways to make the actors look all greasy and shiny like that one picture of the peppers. Not money wasted, but you aren't going to get Shakespeare by renting some studio lights and hiring half a dozen CGI artists.
I also mean like, the quality of the writing etc., to really immerse yourself into it, of course the acting quality too. Does it really exist? I've never heard of anything like that.
One of my favorite pieces is an M/M short story about two men having sex in a sleeping car on a train. They recently became partners and they're taking their first vacation together. The trip and the act itself are a celebration of what they consider to be the true beginning of their life together. The author did a great job of portraying their love for each other and hopes for the future and it made the story vastly more enjoyable than it would've been otherwise to me.
A lot of the problem is people looking in the wrong places. Would be nice to get erotica on film but doubt it would happen.
Good writing can be very enjoyable. That sounds like a nice story.
that sounds so wholesome
I'm sure some of the anime stuff approaches that, and there are some genuinely startlingly good offerings I've seen firsthand in the indie porn game scene (Monster Mind comes to mind, it's like a based and queer version of Huniepop with anthro Pokemon), but searching for any needles in that haystack is such a process. One of the less talked about problems with online porn is that it's impossible to Google anything or discuss compared to normal media because you're worried you'll faceplant into porn about SA or some kind of trojan that steals your credit card. You pretty much have to get recommendations on the normal Internet from people you actually know and trust, it's a lot harder to do any searching yourself. I definitely think that is one aspect where our current porn environment is specifically worse than before, it's a lot less safe to go looking for stuff.
Thank you for your service to the revolution
An you recommend any erotic novels for someone looking to get into the genre
Do you have any "icks", hard-no subjects in content terms?
Nah hit me
Alright well what I started with was In The Court of the Nameless Queen by Natalie Ironside, which rules iirc. If you like spiders.
I’m intrigued. Thanks for the recommendation, I will check it out!
ADMITTEDLY not really, I haven't spent much time with them. They're definitely out there, I'm just not your guy. I really need to do more longform reading in general, right now I'm more of an Ao3 dork, and even then I tend to do more writing than reading.
I also have. Really specific and niche tastes in character designs that most media doesn't appeal to, and most of the stuff that does is completely safe for work.