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[-] UncleArthur@lemmy.world 44 points 14 hours ago

I don't understand how anyone can do this. If you've spent thousands on an asset that (in the USA) one relies on, surely you'd at least get it serviced once a year. I wonder what her house is like.

[-] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 54 points 14 hours ago

A subculture of “the damn mechanic is always just trying to rip me off” will do that.

[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

That's kind of me because as someone who knows computers well and knows how computer repair places are, I can assume mechanics are the same. I usually plan to do my own repairs but I hate cars, am lazy, and rarely drive mine so I usually go way too long before just taking it in far later than I should have

edit: my car is 700km past when it should have had an oil change and the muffler is loose and bouncing around right now for example :)

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Muffler is probable a.$20 fix, if you do it yourself. They hang them from what amounts to two really thick rubber bands. There are two hooks on the muffler and two on the car. That should stop the bouncing. Just ask auto zone for "muffler mounting bands."

[-] froh42@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Regarding "the mechanic always rips me off" - find a good one. When the muffler was loose because of a broken hanger the garage called me, told me and asked me if they should repair it by the book (switching out an 800 Euro part) or just weld the hanger - that would be "The OEM doesn't allow it, so less OEM warranty, but it's only Eur 10."

They basically asked me to allow them to ignore idiotic OEM instructions. (Yes it was an "official" garage by the OEM)

[-] edinbruh@feddit.it 4 points 13 hours ago

Here you are forced by law to get your car serviced periodically. Mechanics are known to try to rip you off every time.

Plus, I could easily raise the counter argument that if I spend thousands on a machine, it better be reliable without needing to get serviced all the time

[-] erusuoyera@sh.itjust.works 24 points 13 hours ago

I'm going to guess by here you mean Scotland (given your username). An MOT (annual inspection) is not a service. The inspection is just to ensure the car is road worthy. Oil and filter changes, for example, are not a part of it.

[-] edinbruh@feddit.it 2 points 3 hours ago

It's not Scotland, I Just use that username.

I think the oil change is not part of the inspection here either. If the oil change was that important, it would be required to be roadworthy. Like working brakes and safe tires. If it is not that important... Then it's not important

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 17 points 13 hours ago

I do live in Scotland. And yeah, MOT just shows the vehicle is legally compliant. Could pass MOT and blow a piston the next day because it's not had any oil put in for 10 years.

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 16 points 13 hours ago

Plus, I could easily raise the counter argument that if I spend thousands on a machine, it better be reliable without needing to get serviced all the time

So I guess you never wash your expensive clothes? A vehicle is essentially a tool. And if a tool doesn't get upkeep every once in awhile then it's going to break. Why would anyone spend some people's annual income on a tool and not treat it with care and give it proper upkeep so it lasts long enough to be worth spending that much money on?

[-] edinbruh@feddit.it 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I have a single piece of expensive clothes. I have never washed it because I wore it only once for my graduation.

Plus, washing isn't servicing. It's just washing. I would also wash my car, sometimes.

Treating with care is also not servicing. If I haven't broken it, and it needs servicing, then it broke by itself. If it broke by itself, then it's a scam and has no business being expensive, I will have to pay for repairing it anyway.

Btw, comparing clothes to a car is a false analogy because they don't cost nearly as much. And before you bring up some stupid expensive designer outfits, I refuse to acknowledge them as clothes, they are just shiny gimmicks for rich assholes

[-] Sadbutdru@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

It's true clothes are not a good analogy.

Machines that operate at high rpm are in a category of their own, and a car is probably the only one most people ever own. There are metal parts inside separated by fractions of a mm, moving past each other at like 30-40 mph, back and forth like 100 times a second. It heavily depends on good lubricating oil to prevent heat from friction building up and wrecking the whole thing.

And the oil is a consumable, it degrades as it does its job, and needs replacing every now and again. It's not part of the MOT inspection because it isn't a risk to other road users, just damaging your expensive bit of kit (and wasting the environmental cost of the energy and materials that went into manufacturing it in the first place).

[-] edinbruh@feddit.it 1 points 32 minutes ago

If a car breaks on the road it's a danger to road users, this is just a fact. If it's really that important it should be part of MOT. As simple as that.

If it's not that important, then you should not get over people's asses for that.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 30 points 13 hours ago

When I met my wife she complained the car was often smokey and lacked power up hill.

First think I checked was oil level.

It had none.

So I asked when she had the oil changed last, and she replied with something like "Oil change? What's that?"

That car got donated to the wrecker for tax receipt program.

She's not good with details, but also never had a dad or car guy influence in her life to explain what maintenance was all about.

[-] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 23 points 12 hours ago

RTFM is a way of life. I'm not a car person by any means. I'm about as good at mechanics as fish are at cycling. I just read the manual, and do what it says, if I can. If not, I take the device to someone who can. Most devices come with documents made by intelligent, educated and experienced people who just want to help make it work.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 hours ago

Many people just throw instructions away. Have you seen IKEA returns. Much of that is people not following the pictures

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 9 points 12 hours ago

/c/dadforaminute@lemmy.world

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Don’t you have mandatory inspections?

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago

Nope. If you bought it new off a dealer they would nag you for maintenance. But if you bought private and were oblivious to maintenance needs there would be nobody reminding.

Personally I don't get it, because I always want to know how stuff works or care info, but she saw it as an appliance. You run it till you call a repair person

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 hours ago

A lot of people are more irresponsible than you can possibly imagine, and, if you point that out to them, you are harming them.

[-] GreenCrunch@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 14 hours ago

i mean, you should change oil more than once a year...

[-] blackbeans@lemmy.zip 1 points 24 minutes ago* (last edited 20 minutes ago)

That totally depends on your mileage.

If you are an average driver (USA ~20 000 km per year, European ~10 000 km per year), a yearly oil change is usually sufficient. Frequent changes are environmentally unfriendly, while at the same time costing more money than they save.
A good fully synthetic oil can do 20 000 km in most modern engines.

[-] UncleArthur@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

My car requires a service plus oil change every year or 10k miles, whichever comes first.

[-] v3ctors@piefed.blahaj.zone -3 points 11 hours ago

And you should cut that in half. 5k max. Auto Manufactures are only interested in your vehicle making it to the end warranty.

[-] just2look@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 hours ago

With fully synthetic oils, tighter tolerances, and cleaner running engines there are many cars that are easily going to make it to a year or 10k miles without serious degradation of the oil.

Things like tire rotations should still be done more often. And there are ways to check/test oil for degradation if you don't believe manufacturer recommendations.

[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

This is opposite from what I’ve heard. Dealerships make a killing on their service department, so they say you need oil change every 8k when in reality 10k is probably fine.

[-] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 10 points 14 hours ago

You can get away with changing it once a year as long as you rotate it every few months.

[-] Mpatch@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Nah just run it once with out, then you just top up every other fill up no oil change needed

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