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"How Cowbee (prominent.ml Tankie) conflates the terms "communism" and "Tankie" to push the narrative that they're the only "true leftists/Communists" " (lemmy.world)
submitted 3 months ago by to c/slop@hexbear.net
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The term Tankie has a clear definition that Cowbee likes to ignore:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those > who support or defend acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the > occurrence of the events thereof.

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[–] 69 points 3 months ago (19 children)

Ukraine, much like Palestine, wants to mind their own business but can’t because they’re being invaded. How do you hate Israel but also support Russia? It’s madness.

I don't think that description applies to either of those states

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  • [–] 45 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    It's wild someone would even boil down something as complicated as international politics down to "you see, the country is like a little guy, and it WANTS things" let alone leaving out the exact and specific reasons why both of those wars started and what each side hopes to achieve in their outcome.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I think it's understandable enough and the bigger problem is that no country "just wants to mind their own business". Literally not a single one, whether we favor what the country does or not.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Relevant Ghassan Khanafani

    Interviewer: But despite this, why not talk?

    Khanafani: [pauses] Talk about what?

    Talk about the possibility of not fighting.

    Not fighting for what?

    Not fighting at all, no matter what for.

    Yeah, people usually fight for something, and they stop fighting for something.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    It's not even simplification, when you go down to that level and point out that Ukraine is consistently in the same team as Israel they have instant crashout.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I do vaguely remember there were tensions between Ukraine and the Zionist entity around 2024, mainly because Amerikkka was giving more artillery shells to Israel instead

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  • [–] 43 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Dogs of the US empire

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

    Except these dinguses aren't even anti-war (as the northwest quadrant is labeled), they just aren't willing to question, let alone separate themselves from the propaganda machine that has made them feel good and righteous about being on Team Ukraine fighting against Sauron-Putler.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    It's understandable to think Russia just started the war in 2022 out of nowhere if you lived on the regular internet this whole time and had nothing but mainstream liberal sources. If this was Instagram or a more "normie" website, for lack of a better term, I'd be totally empathetic with libs who think Ukraine and Palestine are comparable. But being so incurious as to still believe that's the only version of events despite being on Lemmy, where it's pretty easy to spend 5 minutes reading what the "tankies" have to say and understand there's a different historical narrative where the war started in 2015, is just so sad.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    The war started in 2014 when Russia first invaded. It did explode into a far bigger conflict in 2022 though.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Without the Euromaidan coup, there would have been no annexation of Crimea. Either Russia purposefully installed a far-right, anti-Russian, pro-NATO government specifically to create the conditions for annexing Crimea and later the Donbass, or NATO fired first.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    You're right that it was in 2014 not 2015 as I said in my comment, but to say that Russia "first invaded" and started the war then is also incorrect. The ethnic Russians in Crimea who asked for Russia to intervene were responding to the Euromaidan coup which was a significant escalation from the far right in Ukraine. If there had been no intervention from Russia there would probably have been massacres of ethnic Russians.

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