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[–] 42 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Some russian talking point I guess.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It does get weaponized by pro russia but it is still a fact. Israel and nato are allies

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    The one which invaded Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and is now bombing Iran?

    And spare me the nonsense https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-mark-rutte-italy-us-bases-iran-war/

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    What's that to do with NATO precisely?

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Take a moment to pause and think why the head of NATO is saying that the US used NATO bases and NATO supply chain.

    Or maybe this will help

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    He didn't. He said they used Italian bases....

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Italian bases. Which are part of? .....

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Ok so we get to the crux of the issue here. Is everything any NATO member state does, NATO activity? Do bilateral relationships not exist?

    Italy and the UK let America use their bases because America have bases in Italy and the UK. Is everything America does that involves any ally that is also part of NATO, automatically NATO activity?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    And the NATO chief announces it. And the supply chain is managed through NATO...

    Hey you are starting to get it!

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The NATO chief reported on it. Was it a NATO mission or a US mission?

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  • [+] -9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It is not . It is imperialist alliance that was created to fight ussr imperialism and later russia imperialism. Hamas has nothing to do with europe defense. Israel also collaborated with russia but it get a pass for it by Nato. Nato was had a big role in destroying Lybia so agqin nothing about defending europe, canada and the usa

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Care to cite when NATO was active in lybia? Not a bunch of NATOember states, but the NATO alliance acting under the NATO banner in libya

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Under UN orders enforced and embargo and no fly zone.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Yup, it is though as if all NATO members are on the same page with regards to Israel. Spain, Turkey and Italy do not support Israel and yet are in NATO. It's the usual Russian talking point to speak of NATO as if the latter is one homogeneous group that thinks as one, when in reality each members operate autonomously with their own interest.

    OP is sowing discord on NATO with the ridiculous title post, which is what Russia is doing and wants to happen. They captured Washington after all with Trump being in office. No matter, Russia will fall anyway after the war in Ukraine, and so is USA because of Trump. Who'd come out on top is China after Ukraine and Trump, but Beijing will have Kremlin firmly under its thumb.

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  • [+] -43 points 2 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    It's not a russian talking point to make nato the boogeyman every chance it gets?

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  • [+] -15 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    How would one criticize nato with that mindset?

    Or is critique off the table for daddy nato in your fascist utopia?

    Nato is shit with or without russia, but keep sticking your head in the sand

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Nato is not responsible for israel. They are a deterrent for countries like russia to invade member countries. And yeah they are pretty shit, and lots of shitty members, but it has nothing to do with this. The only one attacking nato constantly is russia cause they can't invade all the countries they want now, like finland. That's why I also assume anyone wording thing like nato-backed israel is a russian troll.

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  • [+] [S] -24 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    It’s not a nato talking point to make russia the boogeyman every chance it gets?

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    It's not no. Russia is actually invading countries and undermining democracies. But thank you for confirming you're a russian puppet.

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  • [+] [S] -7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Are you calling Israel a democracy?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Israel is just as evil as russia.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Is Russia just as evil as the USA too?

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    No russia is way worse. Like comically evil. Adding absolutely nothing of value to the world. If they magically disappeared the world would just be better off.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    But you are willing to overlook the USA bankrolling and arming Israel so it can commit genocide.

    How rude of me to point that out in the title. I can see why this upsets you now.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Do we need to say china-backed or iran-backed or North Korean-backed russia every time they commit a war crime as well? And yeah fuck governments that back israel. But that's not a nato thing, they are about defending nato countries, that's why russia is a threat to them.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Western media loves saying "Iran backed Houthis" I am not sure why it upsets you so much that I did the same for Israel and NATO.

    North Korea does not subsidize the Russian military. It sells to Russia.

    Backing implies that the primairy source of power comes from the backer and the primary source of power from Israel comes from NATO, not from itself.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    No, it's the truth. Russia objectively sucks, and it's always objectively sucked.

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 2 months ago*

    Thank you for your incredibly insightful comment.

    I am now convinced it is the fault of Russia that people believe NATO is providing Israel with the weapons and funding to commit genocide against Palestinians.

    It cannot be that NATO is actually funding Israel, supplying it with weapons and even using the entire NATO logistical supply chain to do so.

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