TimeNaan

It's not even their idea... they stole it from the Germans.

Yes ,which is why I deleted my comment and wrote another one ;)

I know she's not great but illuminaughtii made a pretty informative video about this a few years back. I hope it wasn't plagiarized from someone else.

Tldw: he became a far-right christian grifter.

I never thought I would see an andrzejrysuje comic on english speaking Lemmy

This was never about saving them from the start. They were unfortunately pawns for both sides' political interests.

Oh hi, thanks for remembering.

Cunk on Rule

What are you on about? Libretube is an android app...

Man, everybody is so upset at this, it makes it even funnier.

Almost every punk I've ever met considers the Sex Pistols to be posers and Johnny Rotten is a complete sellout and reactionary asshole.

You can call it gate keepy but this kind of anticapitalist and anticonsumptionist gatekeeping is what kept punk rock from being recuperated.

I'm comparing it to the punk subculture which despite of almost 50 years of attempts to commodify it has stayed true to its original values and actively rejects those who only care about aesthetics and not the punk rock DIY ethic as posers.

Hence pop-punk is a separate genre and is growing more and more detached from the punk subculture that it grew out of, but the original subculture remains active and popular.

That's why buying a leather jacket and pre-torn pants would get you laughed out of a punk rock gathering where everything is thrifted and modified DIY but buying every part of a goth outfit brand new is acceptable.

Being goth has completely lost any of its countercultural value since its emergence in the 80s. It has been completely absorbed by capitalism and regurgitated as a commodity, cool clothes you can buy at shopping malls.