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[–] 87 points 2 months ago (7 children)

What makes this soldier "NATO backed"?

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  • [–] 42 points 2 months ago (25 children)

    Some russian talking point I guess.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Yup, it is though as if all NATO members are on the same page with regards to Israel. Spain, Turkey and Italy do not support Israel and yet are in NATO. It's the usual Russian talking point to speak of NATO as if the latter is one homogeneous group that thinks as one, when in reality each members operate autonomously with their own interest.

    OP is sowing discord on NATO with the ridiculous title post, which is what Russia is doing and wants to happen. They captured Washington after all with Trump being in office. No matter, Russia will fall anyway after the war in Ukraine, and so is USA because of Trump. Who'd come out on top is China after Ukraine and Trump, but Beijing will have Kremlin firmly under its thumb.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    IDF is backed by the US, the UK, and Germany, three of the biggest NATO members.

    It's a standard kernel-of-truth propaganda framing.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    As a US citizen, I can tell you the US is a mess right now.

    Projecting our recent filth on every one of our allies is intellectually dishonest behavior.

    The same can be said for the others. There's a seriously concerning paradigm shift taking place where democracy and decency is under attack.

    When the nations outside of NATO are perfect, then let's talk.

    That said, Israel is straight up a serious fucking problem. The genocides they are taking part in are fucking awful. That needs to be dealt with. That nation shouldn't have allies right now, and it's placed massive tension on NATO's members that openly oppose the actions.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    The kernel of truth to the propaganda statement starting with "NATO-equipped soldier..." is that Israel's military is heavily funded colonial project, supported primarily by the US.

    I live in Canada and the Liberals here have also given material aid to the Gaza occupation.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    You can add Canada, we have a loophole that equipment goes through the US first.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Israel uses the NATO supply chain to bypass weapons restrictions from host many countries. For example The Netherlands is also using the NATO supply chain to send their F35 parts to Israel using the same loophole of giving it to the US which can then send it to Israel.

    Many of the weapons transport flights for Israel are also done through NATO bases.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    Well, the United States, and most of Europe, many of whom are NATO members, have backed Israel to the hilt for most of its history, and been its primary benefactors.

    Not sure why you're playing dumb here, when there's a fucking crime against humanity on your screen right now.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (56 children)

    Industry standard thinks that nato, the organization, is supporting Israel. While many nato countries do, its disingenuous to say "nato", but that's how they frame it

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Interestingly, to me, Israel exists directly after the events of WW2 because of said members and Stalin's Russia, all of whom did not care one bit about the region's current inhabitants but didn't want to accept millions of Jews into their countries.

    NATO was formed later on as a check to the USSR, which placed Israel in the first world because of pro capitalism interests. That's neither here nor there, though, as Netanyahu has had very a positive relationship with Putin (with it decreasing a little recently after the attacks on ally Iran). Who do you think sells Israel the most oil?

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  • [–] 39 points 2 months ago

    Then shouts commands at them despite their ear drums being fucked now.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago

    This level of cruelty makes my blood boil so fucking much

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    What's up with that fancy "NATO backed zionist" nickname? Why not 'israeli' or atleast 'idf'?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    I know, one the one hand blaming NATO sounds like Russian propaganda, but on the other hand not blaming NATO puts the blame on Israel alone. On another hand(?!?) is it really NATO's fault? It's a clumsy way to refer to the member states, and it's not NATO that is supporting Israel, it's its members.

    But your question was why not blame the Zionists, and IMO that's because Israel wouldn't be able to do this, if it wasn't for western politicians being afraid of being label antisemitic. Shifting focus to a broader perspective, and making sure people remember this, can potentially make people pressure their elected representatives shift their stance on Israel.

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    [–] 16 points 2 months ago

    Death to the IOF.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    Don't forget about us Australian's, we're not part of NATO but we still back these fucking ghouls.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    This is TERRIBLE! Oh it's an Israeli? YOUR ANTISEMETIC!

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago*

    Fuck these demons. Israel has no right to exist

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Look at this horrible thing Israel did! Anyhow, that's why Spain should stop defending itself from Russia.

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