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[–] 87 points 2 months ago (7 children)

What makes this soldier "NATO backed"?

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  • [–] 42 points 2 months ago (25 children)

    Some russian talking point I guess.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It does get weaponized by pro russia but it is still a fact. Israel and nato are allies

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    The one which invaded Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and is now bombing Iran?

    And spare me the nonsense https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-mark-rutte-italy-us-bases-iran-war/

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    What's that to do with NATO precisely?

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Take a moment to pause and think why the head of NATO is saying that the US used NATO bases and NATO supply chain.

    Or maybe this will help

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    He didn't. He said they used Italian bases....

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Italian bases. Which are part of? .....

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Ok so we get to the crux of the issue here. Is everything any NATO member state does, NATO activity? Do bilateral relationships not exist?

    Italy and the UK let America use their bases because America have bases in Italy and the UK. Is everything America does that involves any ally that is also part of NATO, automatically NATO activity?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    And the NATO chief announces it. And the supply chain is managed through NATO...

    Hey you are starting to get it!

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The NATO chief reported on it. Was it a NATO mission or a US mission?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Yup, it is though as if all NATO members are on the same page with regards to Israel. Spain, Turkey and Italy do not support Israel and yet are in NATO. It's the usual Russian talking point to speak of NATO as if the latter is one homogeneous group that thinks as one, when in reality each members operate autonomously with their own interest.

    OP is sowing discord on NATO with the ridiculous title post, which is what Russia is doing and wants to happen. They captured Washington after all with Trump being in office. No matter, Russia will fall anyway after the war in Ukraine, and so is USA because of Trump. Who'd come out on top is China after Ukraine and Trump, but Beijing will have Kremlin firmly under its thumb.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    IDF is backed by the US, the UK, and Germany, three of the biggest NATO members.

    It's a standard kernel-of-truth propaganda framing.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    As a US citizen, I can tell you the US is a mess right now.

    Projecting our recent filth on every one of our allies is intellectually dishonest behavior.

    The same can be said for the others. There's a seriously concerning paradigm shift taking place where democracy and decency is under attack.

    When the nations outside of NATO are perfect, then let's talk.

    That said, Israel is straight up a serious fucking problem. The genocides they are taking part in are fucking awful. That needs to be dealt with. That nation shouldn't have allies right now, and it's placed massive tension on NATO's members that openly oppose the actions.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    The kernel of truth to the propaganda statement starting with "NATO-equipped soldier..." is that Israel's military is heavily funded colonial project, supported primarily by the US.

    I live in Canada and the Liberals here have also given material aid to the Gaza occupation.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    You can add Canada, we have a loophole that equipment goes through the US first.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Israel uses the NATO supply chain to bypass weapons restrictions from host many countries. For example The Netherlands is also using the NATO supply chain to send their F35 parts to Israel using the same loophole of giving it to the US which can then send it to Israel.

    Many of the weapons transport flights for Israel are also done through NATO bases.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    Well, the United States, and most of Europe, many of whom are NATO members, have backed Israel to the hilt for most of its history, and been its primary benefactors.

    Not sure why you're playing dumb here, when there's a fucking crime against humanity on your screen right now.

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