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[-] jordanpwnsyou@lemmy.zip 41 points 1 week ago

No one has ever said “man I love coffee, I should try ecstasy next!” Lol

[-] akwd169@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

No but people have said if you take ten wake me ups (caffeine pills) it feels like cocaine

So this is what coke is like

These caffeine pills dont do that for me anymore

Maybe I should try coke

Source: my social circle in high school

[-] grue@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

I'm sure more than a few people have said "coffee ain't doin' it for me anymore; I should try cocaine or meth," though.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Unable to cite sources on this, I swear I'm not pulling it out of my ass and I did hear it on broadcast news like in the early 00's...but adderal is (or at least, was) the most abused prescription drug by "soccer moms", so, I wouldn't be surprised.

[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

nobody has said it because the same person never sold both

if you had to go to the ecstasy guy to buy your coffee too, then you'd be much more likely to try ecstasy as well

[-] jordanpwnsyou@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 week ago

What? I’m confused at what point you’re trying to make lol

[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

imagine a scenario, coffee is illegal. you can't buy it in a normal shop, but the same guy that sells every other illegal substance has it. and you have to go to that guy to buy some coffee

even though coffee is not similar in its effect to any harder drug by going out to buy it you're gaining the skill of obtaining illegal substances, and also put yourself in a place where you can get a variety of them

as you're buying your coffee your drug dealer tells you "try this, it'll make you feel really good" and you know what? society's already lied to you about coffee being bad, maybe they're lying about the ecstasy thing too, you already trust this guy, he's been selling you good coffee, so might as well try something new and exciting too eh?

and to be even more blunt, what i'm trying to say is that it's not the substance itself that makes a drug be a "gateway" it's the way you obtain it

if weed was perfectly legal and sold freely then it would not longer be a gateway drug, because as you try it you don't gain the experience and skill of obtaining illegal substances, nor do you get placed in a position where you can grab something extra with your purchase

[-] jordanpwnsyou@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago

Damn dude that’s a lot of text but I can’t take anyone seriously who thinks coffee can in any way shape or form lead to drug use lmao idc how well thought out your thesis is, it’s an insane hypothesis.

Caffeine has plenty of health benefits also. Forcing the working class to rely on it to survive is bad, but whatever you’re saying is ridiculous.

[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

i suggest you actually read what i wrote, instead of making yourself look like a fool

[-] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

You know anyone that's never had coffee before they've tried x?

[-] jordanpwnsyou@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

Know anyone that’s never had pizza before they tried heroin?

[-] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Pretty sure milk is the ultimate gateway drug.

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