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submitted 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) by Faithless@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

So.. after the ridiculous peace prize trump is now even forcing FIFA to manipulate the game in their favour.

If Europe had any balls we would just go home and start a new organisation to replace the corrupt FIFA. We should have never even accepted to play in trumpistan

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[-] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 82 points 10 hours ago

What a shitty thing to do to the U.S. team. Now, there's no way that they can have a clean victory, if they win. It's tainted with the smell of corruption.

[-] fizzle@quokk.au 57 points 9 hours ago

A concept completely lost on Trump.

[-] tacoplease@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago

A concept normal to Trump

The US should have no path to victory.

That they made it this far has everything to do with biased picks for the initial rounds.

Canada, US and Mexico were all all but guaranteed to get into the round of 32, the US was functionally guaranteed to get into the round of 16.

[-] LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 hours ago

I'm going to preface this with a disclaimer that I despise the capitalism and fascism the United States government and by extension a significant portion of our population currently represents.

But your take is just biased opinion of hatred for the current administration or our bandwagon of ignorant fans that have no respect for the game. Anyone who watches world football knows that this United States team is undeniably talented. Are they France, England, Spain, Argentina in terms of pitch to bench talent? No. There's more technical ability on all of those teams, but the U.S. almost certainly has more fitness and athleticism than all of them and enough talent to use it to our advantage. This isn't the U.S. of decades past. They have a legitimate chance at making the semi finals where I'd predict we would be knocked out by France. This American squad is legitimately very good. We beat Paraguay handily 4-1 and it wasn't as close as the score suggests. That same Paraguay team eliminated Germany.

[-] fizzle@quokk.au 8 points 9 hours ago

As someone who has know knowledge of such things what so ever, do they have any chance at winning the cup?

[-] Pringles@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 minute ago

They’re a mediocre team at best. Mediocre teams usually don’t make it to the quarter finals without an exceptionally lucky draw and almost never make it to the semis.

To put it into a chess comparison: to win you need a 2700+ elo and the US is maybe a 2200 elo. Decent, they can beat a higher ranked opponent on a good day for them and an off day for the opponent, but they can’t beat world class opponents in succession. The class difference is too high.

Now they are up against their first higher ranked opponent, Belgium, who should win it fairly easy on paper. In a pre-tournament friendly they comfortably beat the US 5-2, which is indicative of the difference in level between the two sides. Still, it’s a knockout game in the world cup, the US has home and FIFA advantage and Belgium has played below their standards all tournament, so they probably have a decent shot at winning the tie.

No, they should not.
In the initial phase of the tournament, only Canada wasn't the top seed in their group of 4(behind the Swiss)
The US barely topped their group and in doing so guaranteed that their round of 32 match was against the third seed in Canada's group, Bosnia which isn't in the top 60.

Canada's round of 32 game was against either a similarly ranked South Korea(~28 as I recall), or against the near-60th ranked South Africa. So Canada wasn't guaranteed to get out of R32, but always had a good shot. Canada was never going to get out of R16 short of an actual miracle, the matchup was Netherlands or Morocco.

For the US, their 2nd R16 match v Belgium will be their first game against a peer-or-better opponent of the tournament where statistically they can lose.

[-] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

I get and agree with what you're saying here but

The US barely topped their group

Is disingenuous. They won their first two games convincingly, winning the group in only two games. The third game therefore meant nothing, so they didn't play to win and still almost came away with a draw. They could have very likely won that game if the first string played, sweeping the group.

Thats extremely disengenous to the then 22nd ranked team, Turkiye. They were the 2nd best team in that group and legitimately beat the US.

[-] mrmisses@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

No.

Edit: yes with Trump's help

[-] fizzle@quokk.au 2 points 5 hours ago

I think this is what I was really asking.

How can Trump actually help? he can't put balls in the goal.

Yes I get that he can bend FIFA to his will in so far as red cards, but surely that can only really help to an extent.

Bribe the referee from the start. That can easily make or break the game.

[-] Faithless@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago

That’s a good point actually. I guess they could still do the honorable thing and not use that player

[-] hellequin67@lemmy.zip 15 points 8 hours ago

They won't because the US Soccer Federation would not dare humiliate Trump after he's so publicly stated about the red card being overturned.

This is what happens when you give in to dictators.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago

They won’t though.

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