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Tartarus is in Hades. Anyone who goes to Tartarus goes to Hades.
Anyway, riddle Me this: If the opposite of life is death and the afterlife, then how are Christians who go to heaven getting eternal life like Jesus said? No, in this specific context where Jesus is talking about moral deserts, he's constructing heaven's afterlife as a form of eternal life. So why is Jesus promising eternal life, if everyone gets eternal life anyway?
My interpretation is that Hades and Sheol are two different places. Jews go to Sheol, Greeks go to Hades. The rich man in the parable is a Greek so he goes to Hades, and since he was a prick, big man H puts him in Tartarus to be tortured, probably with some kind of ironic punishment. Maybe he gets the generic Tantalus package, since he loved food and wine so much. On the other hand, the Jews Jesus is talking to in Matthew 25 are gonna be going to either Heaven or Sheol, since they're Jewish.
If they go to Sheol, then it gets really hot and maybe they gnash their teeth for a bit, and then they finish dying. Their bodies died on Earth, and then their spirit dies in Sheol. You know, good old ka and ba metaphysics. On the other hand, the ones who were nice to Jesus (and all poor people) go to Heaven and get their bodies restored forevermore up in Jesustown.
Jesus was a really nice guy, so I'd think he'd be a polytheist and respect other religions. On the other hand, being tortured in Tartarus really sucks, so I can see him trying to convert Greek sinners to save them from that bullshit. Unfortunately, his attempts to help the Greek sinners backfired, because now there are 1.4 billion Romans following a Jewish cult that says they're going to be tortured forever if they don't give the Vatican money.
Many Christian sects reconcile it by asserting resurrection and then heaven.
Most people would not regard eternal torture after death as a form of life.
Why do you say he's a Greek? And again, this goes against the fact that Judaism at the time of the New Testament had been aggressively monotheist, not just monolatrous, for several hundred years. This also contradicts the fact that Jesus asserts that any man who does not follow him will suffer in the afterlife, not just Jews.
Is this the same Jesus who said that people who felt lust should tear out their own eyes? The same Jesus who asserts his followers must despise everyone except for him? The same Jesus who proclaimed to bring not peace, but a sword, and to fulfill the brutal Old Testament law?
Then it would be extremely curious that he spent all of his time preaching in Iudea if he sought to convert Greeks.
Because he went to Hades, and that's where Greeks go
Nah, he said this:
If you did not recognise the divinity of the least of the gods, then you did not recognise the divinity of Jesus.
This may be a shock, but the entirety of the Gosepels were written in Greek.
“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be My disciple”
That line is explicitly in reference to mortal poor, referencing the hungry, the homeless, and those imprisoned.