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Had to send my sister off for a 72 hour hold yesterday. Cops and I showed up at the same time, I let them in and then they just kinda stood around and watched me handle it until medics arrived lmao
Fucking Sheriff standing there asking some random dude “what should we do about the animals?” Don’t you have a procedure for this????
Respectfully to your sister but the idea of there being a 72 hour expulsion of all rights or consent because other people have decided that they know better about your own life is beyond infuriating to me.
I know, suicide makes people sad and people often regret trying it. But just straight up imprisoning people for wrongthink is the literal reason I have never even considered therapy. It is so unbelievably dangerous to me to communicate with anyone the thoughts in my head because everyone around me or in any position of power would deem it harmful to myself, and therefore I am not allowed to have agency in the world.
I've been having these thoughts consistently, and nonstop for 25 fucking years and could never even imagine doing anything to fix it because doing so would land me in a mental institution where I would lose my mind instantly at the loss of autonomy. I would become a feral animal ripping at throats.
Why does anyone get to determine what is acceptable for me to do with my own body?
Source? Most (Western) countries have requirements like "Must be in acute danger to themselves or others" to involuntarily commit you. Even self harm, as long as it doesn't put your life at significant risk, is insufficient.
Even suicide prevention hotlines don't send tracking information to emergency services as long as you aren't e.g. telling them you will kill yourself right before hanging up.
The fact you've been having these thoughts for 25 years makes me think you weren't in acute danger for (the vast majority of) that time.
I mean he’s right, you can’t answer the questions they ask completely truthfully. They will consider you a risk to yourself. Then you get your rights removed.
When suicide is one of the only ways we have control over our experience, I’m not sure why it’s so shocking that someone would think about it daily.
Can’t even talk about it.
Honestly: If you are able to make a therapist appointment by yourself, the likelihood you pose such a high risk to yourself that you will be involuntarily committed seems rather low. I mean:
Passive suicidal ideation (e.g. thinking about suicide regularly) sucks but it's largely harmless in the short to medium term. And that's what involuntary commitment focuses on. Like, you're not going to be strapped down on a hospital bed because you said you don't go to the doctor for preventative care, even though it's deadly in the long-term.
This is in reference to people during a psychotic break. They behave irrationally and can be extremely hostile. So yes, unstable people running around in the public with knifes should receive psychological help, voluntary or not. Even if we lived in an anarcho-communist utopia these people will not vanish (although there might be fewer cases due to lower stressors) and must be treated.
Thanks for your opinion bro.
I’ve been to the ward on my accord, sent my ex against his will and sent my sister cooperatively. I’ve seen all of the ways someone makes it to the ward. There is a good fucking reason for the 72 hour hold to exist. Just because you’ve never needed it doesn’t make it ridiculous or out of sorts.
Ok. I am talking about how how there is a non zero chance that if I go to therapy and say the wrong thing, I lose my freedoms. And that wrong thing is completely determined by the therapist. The idea that seeking help necessitates putting my ENTIRE LIFE in the hands of someone else that I do not trust (nor the entire profession) makes my skin crawl. If I say the wrong thing, they say you are not safe to be around others, they come to collect me and not wishing to go, I become that danger to others that they were so worried about. They would create the problem they seek to avoid.
I cannot in any way trust these people making the decisions.
Just because some people say their lives were improved through the prison system, it does not justify its existance.
The ward isn’t prison. It sucks, but it isn’t prison.
A therapist isn’t going to send you to the ward unless you tell them “I have a plan for when and how I am going to kill myself” or “I plan on bringing harm to this person”
Other than that, they’re just gonna ask you “and why do you think you feel that way?”
Precisely why I am worried.
Regardless, I know why I feel this way, there is no mystery. There are specific people responsible. They don't even hide it.
Yeah dude they shoot them
what is a hold. what did you handle. Where did the animals come in I'm so confused
My sister attempted suicide. She is being legally held for 72 hours in a mental ward to make sure she doesn’t try again.
so sorry to hear that. Absolutely infuriating that they even knew what they were being called for and nobody had the right training or experience.
I wish you and your sister all the strength in the world to overcome.