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[-] ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 67 points 3 days ago

You can buy whole kits to build your own, the capacity to control what is made with the is about as much as if you tried to ban someone with a table saw from building a birdhouse.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Oh nothing to worry about then? Fuck you, we need to fight back against every infringement of our rights, it has nothing to do with how effective the law will be but that the law is WRONG.

Jesus christ when will we stop doing this?

[-] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago

tried to ban someone with a table saw from building a birdhouse.

Thats a perfectly succinct analogy.

[-] lung@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

Pretty sure you could make a gun too, which is the point of this 3D printer thing

And like what about other CNC machines?

I like that California is on the frontier of many tech laws, but this and the age thing are particularly dumb lately

[-] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

I made an AR15 with a hobby drill press from Lowes at work. Give me a hunk of metal, a micrometer and a file and I can make you a gun.

Or worse.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

And that is illegal, as it should be. The efficacy of a law has nothing to do with whether it's moral.

It's like saying "we don't have the manpower to police murder effectively, so we are gonna legalize murder". It's a fundamental misunderstanding of what the law is fucking for.

[-] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No its not illegal:

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/privately-made-firearms

You can't make a machine gun or other items on the NFA list though.

A homemade AR15 is completely legal to be made at the federal level.

The rest of your comment is off base.

[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I'm pretty sure that's already illegal in CA

[-] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I think at this point it easier to list what isn't illegal in California.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Are the laws sound and moral? That's the only important metric, it doesn't matter how many laws you have. It's not like you go, oh shit, we have to keep it under a hundred thousand so now we can't make new laws around AI data centers because that's just too many!

[-] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

lol you again, who decides whats "moral"?

And WTF are you bringing data centers into a post about 3D printing and California's draconian laws?

[-] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Neat, I would've assumed you'd need a mill or a lathe, not just a drill press. Kinda want to know how to do it myself, since I own the former but not either of the latter.

[-] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

It won't be accurate or be a long baller w/o a lathe to make a rifled barrel. Not that you couldn't mke a barrel with hand tools, it just would be very difficult.

And like others have said, only the lower receiver is the controlled item. You goto Brownels and can buy 98% of an AR w/o a background check.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

The upper reciever is the load bearing part on an Armalite, but it's also not the regulated part. The lower receiver is, and all you need for that is a box that holds the trigger components in vaguely the right place, a hole that lines up the magazine, a hole to stick the buffer tube into at the back, and some way to nail the upper receiver to it.

You could carve an AR lower out of wood if you were dedicated enough.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Guess I ought to go find a set of machining schematics.

[-] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

If you're near me I'll loan you the gig, the end mills,and support to make an AR lower in about 2 hours.

[-] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Shovel AK is a thing too. There are stencils out there for it.

[-] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Gah how can I forget about the shovel AK????

[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 11 points 3 days ago

Nobody tell California about a nail combined with certain diameters of pipe, because guess what, those can become guns too.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

And that is illegal and you'll rightly spend a lot of time in jail for doing that, shit you can go to prison for suggesting it.

[-] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

zip guns, lets bring in slam fired shotguns.

Never doubt the ingenuity of man killing other men.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago

Thank god we have laws prohibiting and enforcing it then.

[-] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No we don't, check the ppost with this link

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/privately-made-firearms

I can make guns all day long and you can't do anything about it.

[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

If I'm not mistaken, this DOES cover ALL manufacturing devices, and if it doesn't, it will in the future

[-] Oneiros@eviltoast.org 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah I’ve lived in CA for about 10 years now and have loved it, but the new laws they are passing are making it extremely likely that I’ll be moving soon. Especially with tje fact that we are either getting either Becerra who’s in Big AI and Big Oils pocket.

[-] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Or just go to a bordering state, buy one, and come back

[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Printer manufacturers won't make state-specific versions of printers. This is going to screw all of us.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Printer manufacturers won't make state-specific versions of printers.

Likely not even country specific ones.

This is going to screw all of us.

This is the USA screwing the world (again)

this post was submitted on 26 Jun 2026
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