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We Can Still Stop California’s 3D Printer Surveillance Scheme (www.eff.org)
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[–] 69 points 3 months ago (43 children)

You can buy whole kits to build your own, the capacity to control what is made with the is about as much as if you tried to ban someone with a table saw from building a birdhouse.

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  • [–] 41 points 3 months ago (34 children)

    tried to ban someone with a table saw from building a birdhouse.

    Thats a perfectly succinct analogy.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (33 children)

    Pretty sure you could make a gun too, which is the point of this 3D printer thing

    And like what about other CNC machines?

    I like that California is on the frontier of many tech laws, but this and the age thing are particularly dumb lately

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (21 children)

    I made an AR15 with a hobby drill press from Lowes at work. Give me a hunk of metal, a micrometer and a file and I can make you a gun.

    Or worse.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (10 children)

    Neat, I would've assumed you'd need a mill or a lathe, not just a drill press. Kinda want to know how to do it myself, since I own the former but not either of the latter.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    The upper reciever is the load bearing part on an Armalite, but it's also not the regulated part. The lower receiver is, and all you need for that is a box that holds the trigger components in vaguely the right place, a hole that lines up the magazine, a hole to stick the buffer tube into at the back, and some way to nail the upper receiver to it.

    You could carve an AR lower out of wood if you were dedicated enough.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    It won't be accurate or be a long baller w/o a lathe to make a rifled barrel. Not that you couldn't mke a barrel with hand tools, it just would be very difficult.

    And like others have said, only the lower receiver is the controlled item. You goto Brownels and can buy 98% of an AR w/o a background check.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Nobody tell California about a nail combined with certain diameters of pipe, because guess what, those can become guns too.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Yeah I’ve lived in CA for about 10 years now and have loved it, but the new laws they are passing are making it extremely likely that I’ll be moving soon. Especially with tje fact that we are either getting either Becerra who’s in Big AI and Big Oils pocket.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Oh nothing to worry about then? Fuck you, we need to fight back against every infringement of our rights, it has nothing to do with how effective the law will be but that the law is WRONG.

    Jesus christ when will we stop doing this?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Or just go to a bordering state, buy one, and come back

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    [–] 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    You cannot put DRM in stepper motors. This law is dumb.

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    • [+] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)
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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    Bingo, back to the SneakerNet.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    You can still connect it to your LAN without giving it internet access.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    Or I don't and I have no worries as I trust NOTHING.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    I know that a Samsung teevee disconnected from the internet will try and use another appliances internet connection if it can. Gotta imagine this is possible in other devices, too.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Last year I started maintaining a MAC address whitelist on the router: if I haven't added it, it doesn't get in or go out. No way in hell I'm putting any household appliance on the allowed list. While an appliance could technically still try to access via an allowed device, they're all phones and tablets and computers with slightly more robust security than the trust me bro levels of an IoT appliance.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Can you share more info on this? I'm interested in the technical aspect how this is done, specifically which devices it uses?

    For instance, say, a smart speaker, may have Bluetooth and WiFi, but I'm not sure any halfway comprehensive network stack I'd even implemented that could be used as a proxy, let alone autonomously remotely reconfigured to do so.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    If memory serves correctly it was another Samsung device it was leveraging which makes more sense. There were other occasions where it had once been attached to WiFi for a firmware update, disconnected and told to forget the network, but attached again to it at least twice. Took the steps to forget the network again and then powered off completely. Subsequent checks show no further connections so far.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    I've also heard of devices that scan for open networks in the area to use. It's also possible for them to come with a sim card and use a discounted cell collection, though not sure if any TVs are actually doing that. Could even be a virtual SIM so there's no card to find and potentially just remove/destroy.

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