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A reminder that as the US continues to threaten countries around the world, fedposting is to be very much avoided (even with qualifiers like "in Minecraft") and comments containing it will be removed.

Image is of Iranian Foreign Minister Araghchi (below) and Iranian Speaker of Parliament Ghalibaf (above, right) in the Iranian parliament in 2024. These two figures have played a major role in the war so far.


My summary of the situation as I understand it is in spoiler tags below.

summaryAfter many long weeks, Iran and the US have agreed that they're going to begin negotiations on certain topics in a process lasting at least 60 days. Due to America's perfidy during previous negotiations, trust has broken down so far that Iran demanded $12 billion of their frozen funds and several other promises, such as the end to the naval blockade, to even return to the table, which seems perfectly reasonable to me. Iran also demanded that negotiations take place in two stages, and that nuclear issues will only be discussed in the second stage, which will be several weeks from now if everything goes as planned.

The terms of the MoU have themselves been a big source of confusion and suspicion, for me and many other pro-Iranian spectators. Getting the wording exactly correct is important, because the US really is like the devil - leave room for any possible interpretation in the contract that favors them more, and they'll insist that this was the only interpretation up for discussion. Additionally, the US might be historically bad at winning wars, but they're very, very good at winning peaces: they set up the post-WW2 order to best suit them by playing the European powers off each other; the DPRK might have survived the Korean War politically intact but existed for nearly the next hundred years as a sanctioned pariah; Vietnam was soon forced to economically engage with the country that had dropped triple of all the bomb tonnage of WW2 on them; and so on. It is no exaggeration when I say that the negotiation phase will be the most dangerous part of this war and it could lead to the most death and destruction without a single missile impacting Iran.

However, there's one little genocidal colony in the region that could stop this whole process from even beginning, as the US appears to have promised Iran that the Zionists will stop the war against Lebanon (and perhaps Gaza too? I'm a little unclear) and even withdraw entirely from southern Lebanon, including all bases set up since this broader conflict began. Apparently, the US promised this in return for Iran not striking the Zionists in return for their most recent strike on Beirut on June 14th. Now, the issue with this whole situation is that the US greenlit the Zionist strike on Beirut, and they knew that Iran would respond to it because they did in response to an earlier strike. If the US made such major concessions to Iran in return for this response strike not occurring, then why authorize the Beirut strike at all? Why make their position worse? Right now, I can think of two reasons. First is that they attempted to create one final embarrassment for Iran, under the assumption that Iran was so desperate for a deal that they wouldn't risk responding. Second is that this is all one big ruse or misdirection; the US does not intend to follow through with the MoU and subsequent negotiations anyway, and so the terms they're "agreeing" to don't really matter.

With the MoU signing apparently set for June 19th, we'll know for sure soon.


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Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 69 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

https://xcancel.com/RWApodcast/status/2067657204136575474

The US and Israel did everything in Iran that adherents of the “Putin won't press the Win The War button” school of thought think Russia should do (bomb schools and hospitals, poison people by striking chemical infrastructure, indiscriminately attack civilians, mass murder every government official they can reach along with their families, attempt to cause a society-wide collapse by destroying police/firefighters/ambulances, etc.) and evidently it didn't work and they still lost. Even in today's age of high tech warfare there is simply no replacement for the humble infantryman assaulting a treeline. Only the man with a rifle is capable of producing decisive military victory. "Любви достойна только пехота". [Only the infantry is worthy of love]

I feel that the valorization of infantry is rather hyperbolic - those infantrymen have a whole bunch of other assets supporting them, their treeline assaults would be a lot bloodier if the Ukrainians defenders hadn't been severely attritted by bombardment - but still, the broader point about the inability of brutal strategic bombardment to necessarily achieve strategic aims I feel stands. I'll add a bit more analysis, since I saw a bunch of "but Iran did things" takes below the tweet, and there are some important differences between the two situations:

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Firstly. Iran's strikes didn't carry much of a risk of expanding the war - Israel was obviously all-in from the start, and the Gulf states, while they may have publicly pretended that they were just smol beans, were also involved. Note that Iran did not strike European bases, the move that is always demanded from Russia - the Sofia airport in Bulgaria for example was used by the US and would have been in range even with the 2000km limit that had been imposed by Khamenei, and many other airports would have been in range if the Iranians decided to not abide that limit (since it was not necessarily a question of technical limitations, but political). The two notable strikes on targets outside of US/Israel/Gulf countries that risked this, on Cyprus and Diego Garcia, were never confirmed as Iranian, with Iran denying the later one as a false flag - and given that the Israelis immediately came out with a "see, they could strike European capitals with this kind of range!" statement, it may well have been exactly an attempt to compel European countries to expand the war beyond their basing support. Iran also obviously did not strike any industry in Europe or the US.

In Russia's case, direct strikes on European logistical and industrial sites would risk an expansion of the war - and given that Russia is fighting an attritional conflict, introducing a whole bunch of extra NATO troops would throw off their attritional calculus substantially. As it stands, NATO equipment gets to slowly trickle in as aid and be destroyed piece-by-piece, rather than coming in all at once.


Secondly, as far as the ability of long-range strikes (not of the "bomb all civilians" variety, but actually targeted ones like Iran has done) to defeat the enemy without the involvement of ground troops, which has seemingly been vindicated by the Iranian campaign, there is still an important caveat.

The US is at a substantial disadvantage here as an imperial aggressor waging expeditionary warfare far from home. As such, they are reliant on infrastructure from which to attack - "moving infrastructure" in the form of ships, and permanent in the form of bases. Both of these are a very limited resource - the US only has so many bases in the region, and through decades of decay the US Navy has been reduced substantially so it cannot compensate for the lack of physical bases to the same extent as it could have in the past (for example, for the Gulf War the US deployed six aircraft carriers, while for this war it barely managed two, with one of those having its deployment extended for far too long to likely disastrous effects in terms of maintenance, and that's not even counting the laundry fire... although technically I think there was a short interval where there were three at a time, after the Ford returned for a little bit after partial repairs only to eventually be sent back home for good - so they tried managing three at a time, but couldn't sustain it and had to send the third one home).

So, with this more limited set of targets, it was feasible for Iran to sufficiently damage them to degrade the Americans' ability to fight and make the continuation of the war much costlier, due to the more extensive usage of tankers and fancier munitions in order to compensate for the American planes having to fly from further away. Plus, y'know, the Strait. And in the event of defeat in some peripheral region, the empire can just... pack their bags (what's left of them anyway catgirl-smug) and leave. It would be humiliating and deeply politically controversial domestically, of course, and it could have various consequence for the empire down the line (given that they were presumably in the region for some concrete strategic reason), but it is materially possible.

The Ukrainian situation is different - they're on their own ground, neighboring Russia, not sustaining an expedition continents away. There's way more bases and infrastructure for the Russians to contend with, so it would require a much greater investment of resources to destroy all that (and it would have to be a continuous effort, as infrastructure can of course be repaired - as the Iranians themselves demonstrated), and since this war actually involves a ground component, unlike in Iran, one has to weigh the advantages of degrading Ukrainian performance by denying them planes and industrial capacity with the disadvantages of leaving less assets available to support one's own ground troops in their assaults. Russia's airforce is nowhere near as large as the USAF, and has to juggle priorities a lot more. And of course, in the end the Ukrainians can also keep taking advantage of infrastructure in neighboring NATO countries (for example, a lot of repairs are done out in Poland), for which refer to the first point.

Note that at the end of the day, as successful as Iran's campaign was, it has not stopped Israel in Lebanon. A long-range strike campaign may be able to defeat another long-range strike campaign (by hitting more meaningful enemy targets while preventing the enemy from hitting your own meaningful targets thanks to concealment and keeping assets protected in fortifications, thus preserving your firepower), but a ground force, in most circumstances, is going to have to be defeated by another ground force.

[-] red_giant@hexbear.net 38 points 1 week ago

I think it’s fundamentally true though. It’s very hard to think of a single war that wasn’t won by virtue of taking and holding territory.

You’re of course absolutely correct you can’t just send a meat wave. Planes and artillery, etc, give the infantry a vital edge but the US and Israel tried to fight a war with only the supporting tools and without infantry and it spectacularly does not work.

[-] duderium@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago

They tried air power + homegrown terrorists on the ground, which did actually work in Libya. They didn’t count on Iran being much stronger than Libya was. It does seem like officers’ coups (like Gaddafi’s or Nasser’s or even Sankara’s) can achieve a lot for a few years or even decades, but a revolution obviously needs widespread popular support if it’s going to last.

Gaddafi ruled Libya for only a few years less than the revolution has ruled Iran, too. And he also made many efforts to reconcile with the west, just as Iran has.

[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh yes, definitely. I meant more so that "Любви достойна только пехота [Only the infantry is worthy of love]" quote being hyperbolic - the artillerymen deserve plenty of love too capabara-tank explosion (I don't think we have any cannon emojis... )

War, even purely on the ground, is still the coordinated action of many different assets together.

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