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Be gay, do crime; fuck YHWH's rules (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 54 points 3 months ago (40 children)

God made gay people. God made gay penguins and animals of all varieties. The only indication from God that gay is bad is from the fallible hands of man interpreting his words.

I don’t think God will be upset.

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  • [–] 32 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    I feel pretty confident that if there is a god and it is just, then sexual orientation doesn’t even register as a concern. I say this as someone who has been outside recently and seen actual problems.

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  • [+] -10 points 3 months ago (32 children)

    God made people Adam and Eve ate the apple when tempted by Satan thus introducing original sin Animals do not have a rational soul like we do, as they were not made in His image.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (16 children)

    Why did god make such a trap and place it within reach of his pets? Seems like really shitty pet ownership. This is the moral equivalent of having a pet rabbit and having ivy within nibble reach and then blaming the rabbit for eating the ivy.

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  • [+] -7 points 3 months ago (15 children)

    we arent his "pets", and we have a rational soul, so thats a false equivalence

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (13 children)

    How was it possible to have this "rationalness" prior to consuming from the tree of knowledge? They simply wouldn't know any better and have no concept of consequences. How can you actually reason without knowing shit? Sure, god told them they would die, but how would they even know what death means? The humans had no prior experience with death up to this point! No human/thing had ever died, it was just them. It would be super abstract. Ever explained death to a child without actually showing them something dead?

    And how else would you describe a lesser being kept in a curated garden? Pet seems like an extremely apt term.

    Also none of this excuses the omnipotent and omniscient being from being a shitty owner. Why even make the tree if they knew humans were gonna fuck with it? Were they incapable of seeing this possible future? If eating that fruit was original sin, that's a complete abdication of responsibility for: 1) creating the damn tree, 2) putting it in the garden where the human critters can get to it, and 3) creating a literal agent to psyop the humans into eating it. What a colossal fuck up for an all-powerful, all-knowing god. And that's being generous. A more balanced take is that god is fucking evil for stacking the deck against humanity and then blaming them for it, knowing full well what was going to happen.

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  • [+] -6 points 3 months ago (12 children)

    knowledge ≠ rationalness and it wasnt PHYSICAL death, it was spiritual death.

    God created satan as an angel of light, but he was corrupted by sin, especially the sin of pride

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    Lucifer had the audacity to talk back and have a different idea than his father, so he was kicked out... Forever.

    Kicking out family for not doing what you personally want, then being angry that a bunch of the rest of the family decides to start ignoring you as they also do their own thing. One of the most narcissistic things you could do.

    That's one of the most Christian things I've ever seen. There's no hate like Christian "love".

    But it's all fake stories anyway so it doesn't really matter. Even if it did... The Bible doesn't mention Lucifer being cast out at all... The Isaiah 14 passages usually referenced for that actually reference the King of Babylon.

    The story of Lucifer Morningstar being cast out of heaven actually comes from the epic poem Paradise Lost, written in 1667 by John Milton.

    So if you believe that story then you would have to consider John Milton in 1667 to be equivalent to the various Councils of Nicaea deciding on what would be included in the Bible.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    Satan had the audacity to try to stab his father and steal the kingdom of Heaven, got cast down to the abyss

    Revelation 12:7-9

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (8 children)

    I wish I had killed my abusive parents when I was young.

    They continue hurting people to this day.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    I'm so sorry for you.

    I'll pray for you and them

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (6 children)

    That makes you feel better while accomplishing nothing.

    If you are truly sorry, stop spreading your backwards brainrot.

    Kids are dying for your bullshit.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    can I have an example?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (4 children)

    Here is one: https://www.ncronline.org/vatican/vatican-news/story-lgbtq-youths-suicide-led-synod-delegates-cry-radcliffe-reveals

    Participants in a closely-watched ongoing Vatican summit heard testimony about a young LGBTQ person who did not feel welcome by Catholic Church officials and committed suicide.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    This is a case of great sorrow and grief. Everyone should feel welcome in the Church. "It is not the healthy who need a physician, but those who have maladies" - Jesus Christ of Nazareth

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    This is a case of great sorrow and grief.

    Entirely preventable, but dipshits like you insist they are entitled to tell deadly lies.

    Fuck you for choosing death.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    This didn't happen because the Church believes in Christ, it happened because they already had certain mental issues and felt unwelcome in the church. This was mishandled severely.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    They "felt unwelcome in the church" because bigotry is baked in to the entire religion. You have demonstrated that for us many times in these comments, homophobe. Murderer.

    Fuck you for choosing death.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    knowledge ≠ rationalness and it wasnt PHYSICAL death, it was spiritual death.

    You didn't answer the question. How can you reason without knowledge? How could adam and eve have rational souls before eating from the tree that gave them knowledge and before truly understanding the consequences?

    God created satan as an angel of light, but he was corrupted by sin, especially the sin of pride

    But god knew this was going to happen, right? Is god incapable of creating sinless beings? Is sin more powerful than god? Because it seems like shoddy craftsmanship to create something with a fatal flaw.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    What is a rational soul and why don't animals have them?

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    a soul that can choose between Good and evil, nonhumans werent created in the image of God, so they dont have it

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    You can't divide morality in only good and evil. That's dumb.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    So is evil defined by intention? Gay penguins aren't evil because they aren't choosing to be gay?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Evil is defined by God (in Bible).

    So... being gay is evil, being disobedient to parents is evil, being Hindi is evil, and so on.

    It's pretty detached from "evil" as it is known today (or then for that matter).

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    My user tag for you is absolutely on point, not gonna share what it is though because it'd lessen the effect somewhat.

    Anyway, your inability to use basic grammar and punctuation is just so fucking perfect for the idiocy of what you write. And you not realising what an absolute fool you show everyone you are makes it even better, top tier schadenfreude.

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