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[-] Yliaster@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Except the intent is very much likely to wipe out other cultures here and not just to match grammar or pronunciation.

Franz -> Ferenc isn't as drastic a change as Ibn Sina -> Avicenna

The former retains similarity to the original whereas the latter makes it completely unclear the origin was Arab.

[-] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago

Ibn Sina -> Avicenna seems to sound similar though, but I can't speak Latin or Arabic.

At least the cenna and Sina part, you can see they're related. The people Latinizing the name did not just roll a die I presume and had respect for the people who came up with something. It's why algorithm and algebra are both directly from Arabic, algorithm from the guy who wrote this book:

The Concise Book of Calculation by Restoration and Balancing (Arabic: الكتاب المختصر في حساب الجبر والمقابلة, al-Kitāb al-Mukhtaṣar fī Ḥisāb al-Jabr wal-Muqābalah; or Latin: Liber Algebræ et Almucabola)

Al-Jabr

At least in my opinion the Latinization does not seek to hide the fact it's Arabic. In fact, it just takes (directly) untranslatable Arabic terms and puts them into Latin.

It is not certain just what the terms al-jabr and muqabalah mean.

No idea how "Ibn -> Avi" makes sense though, I'd be surprised if it was done with any hostile intent though.

[-] Yliaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

It doesn't come off as Arabic and for a long time I myself, despite having known the Arab name, thought it was a different western guy.

This is is a largely unpopular take if you look into criticisms of how the west names things, provided one has a radicalization towards seeing things such as whitewashing etc.

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