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Companies Are Using Reddit to Manipulate ChatGPT and Google AI Search
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Did you guys not realize this is happening with the right wing think tanks as well?
Lots of groups are flooding every social media platform with their views. Comments and posts. They take over all kinds of groups. Like bobs lgqtb hate groups. They even convinced leftist to avoid confronting them. Remember all the people a few years ago telling each other to not "roll with pigs" and maybe we should all just leave the major platforms for a much smaller place. Now when AI ingests data it's all right leaning. So if you ask Claude what's going on with climate change, it'll aggregate everything and give answers saying how global warming is a controversial topic and so on.
This is the consequence of not playing the game. Temporary gain for long term pain.
The answer to all of this has always been awareness. Identify the astroturf and go in the opposite direction. The Chicago way, like in the untouchables. If they put one of ours in the hospital, we put two of theirs in the morgue. There are more of us then them. The solution is for every shit post or comment we need to make 10. Every advertising you see, you need to create an anti ad. You need to multiple their effort in the reverse. It costs them money. It costs us just time and effort. You fucks spend months posting about beans and moths so you can fuck off trying to say you couldn't do this.
I'm curious if one could do the math on this, if it can work. Like a cost analysis. I'm pretty sure it's not, like impossible by an order of magnitude.
They have billions of dollars to spend and can dominate and push speech at a much cheaper price. It costs them peanuts to buy votes or sockpuppets or bots. Or they own the algorithm. Meanwhile we have to work to survive and have limited time and energy. I think one of the biggest misconception is that ideas win, but reality is that we have an army of millions on one side and an army of thousands on the other, and there is no doubt who will win.
And worse yet, much of this isn't even deliberate, it's a side effect of tuning algorithms to maximize engagement. The more you yell the more they yell their more the engagement numbers go up and they win. Polarization and divisiveness is good business.
No clue if this is true or if this can even be researched, you'd probably need data from the social media providers. The only winning move I see would be to nationalize all social media and turn them into non-profit cooperatives that are controlled by their own workers.
I think your math is wrong. You know why America loses wars? It's a massive machine that requires constant tuning and billions to actually do anything. You put out up against a non traditional military like guerilla fighters and they can grind that fucker down with smaller strategic attacks. This is the battle we're up against.
And you know how I know this? Look at how much effort was put into moving people on the left off these platforms. They know the math is against them. They are limited by the same algorithms we are. Except they do not have the same man power since they're using bots and vote rigging. But at the same time, posts can only display so many comments. Just having votes isn't enough. It's the network and discovery and engagement and most of all is the content. With a more active presence, especially with lemmy which is supposed to be ideally set up to prevent hostile take overs, we could make it increasingly difficult for their efforts. They're already laying ground work for the next election cycles. Go look at how many of your favorite shows have a Facebook group that has anti lgqtb, anti Trans anti left dominate groups. And you know what. The other groups fight back but they can only do so much. Lemmy should be a place to build communities focused on sharing information, spreading awareness and documentation of how they are trying to seize and manipulate things.
In my mind it is so bad to have lemmy, a tool clearly built to do something with and then just use it to post a daily news article and memes about AI
There are definitely not more real people who actually give enough of a fuck to continuously put an effort in to deny every bot’s claim than there are right wing bots.
I think you under estimate it greatly. It's not about saying you go out and give me ten comments stat.
But it is about moving away from the cultural of "don't engage" and promoting the culture of we'll fucking met they bullshit and return fire when we can. It's about moving behavior from defensive posture to offensive to get us off our back foot
I tried, I got loads of bans from Reddit because the mods are generally right wing fucks themselves.
Yea exactly and this brings up another issue. Lemmy is built to get around that. This should be the place we can build communities to counter this. Identify mods and posts that are clearly playing games. Document and spread this information. People are smart. They'll find ways.
If all we're using lemmy for is sharing shit bean posts then we're useless people
After getting bans for random things I created an account on reddit to just report right wing accounts for hate or violence which is a lot of them.