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The Latinizing of Names
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this post was submitted on 03 Jun 2026
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No, I disagree - same with countries names. Would be good to not anglicize or Latinize anything anymore. It's ok if people expand their boundaries and pronunciation skills.
Call the person or thing by what they go/went by.
We recently did it with "Türkiye".
But it’s so cringe when English speakers suddenly switch to a foreign accent to pronounce one word. And would you want to force speakers of other languages to do the same instead of using their own versions of English names?
I even find it weird when people who do have that heritage do it. It just rings fake.
Theres a celebrity chef who is terrible for it. When 99% of the time on camera you have perfect American "non regional media diction" but pronounce "cilantro" or "Jalapeno" like someones abuela it comes across like someone putting on an act.
We did not do it with "Türkiye". Also note that ü is a different letter from u, not just a u with decoration.
The Turkish government requested international organizations to refer to Turkey that way:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey
Everyone else continues to call it Turkey, especially newspapers. It's why the Wikipedia article continues to be called "Turkey". Neither me nor you are a country or international organization.
Same with Ivory Coast and its official name "Côte d'Ivoire".
That's simply restating something that I said we should do differently.
A country requested to be called differently, and people still call it what they know it as. I'm saying it's fine if we try to learn it.
Yes, u and ü are pronounced differently - more to my point.
The US prefers to be called "America" yet I still don't call them by that name either.
I don't need to abide by what some fascist Turk says you should call their country or not.
Maybe once Turkey stops trying to wipe out the Kurds I'll respect what far-right Turkish nationalists want that country to be called.
Lol - That's just deviating from the entire context of the discussion, but ok.
Guilty as accused.
Türkiye
Thanks for the correction, edited it. Not so hard.