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[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 50 points 15 hours ago

How have TVs gotten so cheap. It's gotta be shit.

[-] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 15 minutes ago

TVs are made from components that are made through almost entirely automated processes at such large scales that the underlying raw material and cost of shipping become the main driver of cost. Paradoxically, that means that TVs that have gotten thinner and lighter use less material and therefore have a lower floor of how little it can cost.

Once a production line is set up to make the components, each additional one produced costs very little, so making high volume runs is the key: lots of shared parts between brands and models, very long production runs to minimize the cost of redesign or retooling or downtime.

[-] timochka@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 hours ago

TVs were always cheap compared to cost to make the things - it's not just the "oh, they have advertising now" thing.

Source: I worked in electronics retail in the late 80s/early 90s, and in one of the world's largest consumer electronics firms when my career proper started.

The TVs in the window of the local electronics chain store (or in Walmart) were sold at practically zero margin, or more often than not at a loss. The retail chains would basically hold a gun to the CE companies heads and tell them if you're not willing to sell at a loss, nothing you make is going in the window display, or worst case we're not selling you at all.

The retail chains didn't care because all their profit was in selling accessories and unnecessary extended warranties. The CE companies hoped that they could make it up by selling you the more expensive model they actually made a profit on once you were in the door, or by selling you a VCR or whatever as well.

This is why the TV companies were always looking for a "next big thing" (flat-screen, ultraflat, widescreen, HD, 3D, 4k, 8k...) to differentiate the "next model up", which is to say the model the store would actually allow them to make a profit on.

This particular race-to-the-bottom mutually assured destruction business model is also the reason there is practically no consumer electronics manufacturing left in the West, of course. And why manufacturers grasp at stuff like advertising.

[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 minutes ago

Shame, I particularly miss Panasonic and Sony

[-] Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org 37 points 12 hours ago

They stopped making them out of gasoline.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 hours ago

Boy you are gonna be shocked when you learn about where plastic comes from.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

i mean they do have less plastic than before.

[-] sibannac@lemmy.world 26 points 12 hours ago

Nearly all tvs are smart tvs that make money with showing ads and selling data. Any loss on the hardware is made up on selling customer data and ad space. The tvs would be amazing if they didn't come with smart features.

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

did this happen recently? i got mine in 2019 its enormous and all it does it turn on and lets me play xbox

[-] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

2018 is about when it started but it was a very small number of tvs. By 2020 it was a common thing but it was a dedicated line of tvs from each brand. By 2024 it was all cheaper tvs basically. And now it's basically every TV and even some monitors.

The non smart TVs are almost as hard to find now as finding a smart one was in 2018. And monitors are starting to have smart features and ads even among the highest end offerings. But unlike tvs they arnt any cheaper for it. Its stupid.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 2 points 6 hours ago

The build quality is not great, they saved on backlight heatsinking so the LEDs will bake and delaminate, causing dark spots, discoloration etc.

[-] leaveWitX@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

TV?No, it's just a big display

[-] stickly@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

Is there any way to lobotomize these smart TVs? Even the specs on a cheaper mid-range would blow my current dinosaur out of the water

[-] Gormadt@slrpnk.net 14 points 8 hours ago

Never connect them to the internet

You want your favorite streaming service on there? Get an older (used office) PC, load it up with (your prefered flavor of) Linux, get a bluetooth keyboard mouse combo, hook it up to your HDMI port, and go ham.

Some TVs even let you turn them on directly to a specific HDMI port for a bonus fun time of never having to see the TVs menu.

[-] modus@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago

Don't connect them to the internet.

[-] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

Iv stared coming across some that's not remotely an option. They require a logged in account before they accept any input.

If you attempt to use a DNS ad blocker they also just stop working. Its fucking toxic.

[-] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Right back to the store then.

Fuck around and get a charge back.

[-] stickly@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

True, I'll probably end up going that route when this one dies (assuming they don't all require sign in and heartbeats at that point)

Was hoping for something like a FOSS OS just for the convenience of keeping jellyfin up to date and cleaning up the useless baked in apps.

[-] sureshot0@discuss.online 2 points 8 hours ago

This probably exists, or at least I hope it does

[-] modus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Use an external media player. Personally, I use a roku routed through a pihole.

[-] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 34 points 14 hours ago

I'm guessing it's all advertising deals and spyware. Oh, and the TV is still shit.

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 17 points 14 hours ago

Yea, TVs are all ā€œSmartā€ now. But they don’t have any truly new or useful features, they just record your conversations and transmit occurrences of keywords as ā€œusage and diagnosticā€ data. I guess now they can use wifi to do occupancy scans of your house too, so that’s fun. Oh and they use Bluetooth to scan for nearby devices that are willing to cooperate in case you don’t put them on the LAN and they transmit that way.

Anyway, TNG has left Netflix. Can you fucking believe it?

[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

TNG left Netflix like eight years ago... 🦜Yarrrr

[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

My blu-ray set is still on my shelf.

[-] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 4 points 14 hours ago

Telly is a TV you can pre-order, which is completely free but apparently pays for itself with all the ads it will display lol

[-] RedMari@reddthat.com 10 points 13 hours ago

They externalize their true cost to the environment and laborers.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago

Don't forget ads! They're also subsidized by the ads they're definitely going to inject if you use the built in OS.

[-] architect 3 points 12 hours ago

Usually the cheap ones are so cheap they don’t even do that.

[-] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 12 hours ago

In both cases. We don't pay nearly the real cost of gasoline.

[-] RedMari@reddthat.com 3 points 6 hours ago
[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago

They're single use and throwaway, with the bonus of spyware. Like everything made today. Everything.

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