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New York pizza culture is a cult. Tired of people acting like it's something handed down by a God. NY style pizza is honestly pretty mid in the grand scheme. It's a generic American pizza style originally created in the early 1900s and largely became popular because it was affordable leading into and coming out of The Great Depression.
Clearly not a NYer. NY pizza culture goes beyond the pizza itself, though I will also strongly disagree that it's mid- them's fighting words. It's a result of NYC's crazy lifestyle. It is:
I no longer live in NYC sadly but it's my home city and the pizza culture is honestly one of the things I miss most. That's not to say other cities don't have good pizza (shout-out to Detroit style) but they lack the other elements of that culture. Tangentially related, wtf is going on with Pittsburgh style pizza?
Edit: I didn't feel like I needed to specify but toppings are a huuuge part of it
Okay and altering the recipe to remove potassium bromate will change exactly zero of those things.
I never argued that it would
if it was perfectly crisped, you wouldn't be able to fold it in half.
NYC-style pizza has one thing going for it: it's genuine fast food. It's on par with other fast food.
Have you even seen Altoona-style pizza? Made widely famous thanks to it being where Luigi was arrested. Sicilian-style pizza dough, tomato sauce, green bell pepper, salami, topped with American cheese and cut into squares. That's an abomination.
That style of food you don't care for is a style that other people grew up with and think of as "the good old days." There are food styles you do like that exist in precisely the reverse situation. That's all perfectly normal.
Damn man, sounds like you're just a hater. "Pretty mid" are you judging an entire city of pizza based on one interaction you've had? There are multiple types of pizza within just NY, you can't tell me a slice in the Bronx and in Brooklyn are the same.
Yes, not every 99c pizza (where you can find em still, increasingly $1.50 min) is going to be mind boggling, but the standard is significantly higher than the rest of the states and any country outside of Italy. I can walk into damn near any joint in the city and walk out with acceptable pizza, something you absolutely cannot say about the rest of America. There's a reason pizza hut and dominoes and the rest of that garbage don't do well here, but seemingly have a hold everywhere else.
Then, when you're ready to start finding the best? Takes slightly more work but that's here too, usually a little bit more expensive than the 99c places but your history lessons aren't going to tell you where to find it lmao like that has anything to do with pizza quality a century later in a city like NY.
Man you're making me miss a slice of Joe N John's. I used to live around the corner from them, it was dangerous
you don't like grease with a side of pizza?