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For those who lived in blissful ignorance of this abomination
Can confirm I own one of these and it is stupidly designed! Glad I didn’t pay for it lol
What surprises me most is that I don't think Apple ever sold an expensive cradle for this mouse to be held upside-down. Die hard Apple fans would have bought it.
They not only bought it, they defended the design choices to the hilt
For the full experience, the car would have to look the same from the front and the back, so you wouldn't know which is the driver seat until You opened the door.
Open the door? Oh no this seamless design requires you enter through the bottom hatch.
Time to completely renovate the garage for below-ground entry!
The entry has been removed, you now entirely interact with the car by Bluetooth.
Your iCar gets 64 feet from your house, disconnects, and sits in the middle of the road. Passersby are uncertain if the car is on, off, or died in the middle of use. A few days later, a local child jokingly jostles your iCar while running by. Nothing on the car indicates a change, but the nearest 4 houses see "db2's iCar" as an available device in their Bluetooth settings. The available Bluetooth car then disappears from the list of available devices. Your iCar travels another 64 feet and stops, waiting for someone to now pair with "TheFartographer's iCar."
Don't forget this gem
(idk how to embed images on Lemmy)
The fun part of that is you have to charge the ipad first. And Then you can charge the pen using that new ipad charge. I'm charging this thing twice just for one charge basically. No wonder i don't use it.
Lemmy uses markdown for formatting. If you're unsure how to do something, you can look up "how to x in markdown." For example, a DDG result for "how to embed images in markdown":
https://www.markdownlang.com/basic/images.html
That site has lots of other markdown tutorials if you're inclined to browse. If you want to experiment with the syntax away from the public eye, there are plenty of editors that will show you live what you've created. Many options for doing this locally on your system exist, but so long as you're not working with sensitive data, I like this online option:
https://markdownlivepreview.com/
Also, some (but certainly not all) Lemmy clients have buttons that will generate the right syntax for you.
Thanks, I didn't know Lemmy had full markdown support. I assumed it was like reddit, which (last time I used it) didn't allow image embeds in comments.
Bruh you can embed a whole movie if you want:
Inconceivable!
Good choice
Allegedly Apple chose that design because they didn't want people to get the wrong idea by using their Apple mouse while it was charging and think it might be a wired mouse. Although they apparently get pretty good battery life at least.
The LG wireless mouse my work tossed at me gets like 3 months to the charge as a mouse that's used for mouse heavy work 40 hours a week, so I wouldn't be at all shocked if apple achieved similar (although the LG has a charging port where any wired mouse would have the wire go in, so you can actually use it while it charges like a normal mouse!)
Every single one in have ever used has had terrible battery life
I've had the same cheap Logitech M705 mouse at work for over 10 years. It takes two AA batteries that last for around two years with daily use. Cost $30 when I first got it.
They do still sell it but have cheaped out a bit over the years - the scrollwheel is now plastic instead of metal and the sensors aren't as good - but it still has that great battery life.
I don't understand how these newer, fancier mice can't achieve the same thing. I really hate that everything is moving towards built-in batteries. AAs are easy to instantly replace and I have a bunch of Eneloop rechargeable ones.
The mouse I was provided by work is an MX Anywhere 3S likely purchased around 2023, and I charge it maybe once a year? Infrequently enough that I honestly can't tell you. There is a very noticable improvement in quality from Logitech's ~$30 mice to this one, but the AA battery powered one it replaced lasted a good 3 months or more before it needed new batteries as well
Maybe I'll give that model a go if my current one ever dies.
I got an MX Master 3 as an upgrade, but couldn't get used to the weird scrolling behaviour (similar to this: https://www.reddit.com/r/logitech/comments/wpp1c6/logitech_mx_master_3s_scrollwheel_is_still/), so ended up returning it and reverting to the $30 one.
I have no idea how they fucked up that scroll wheel so badly. There's a setting you can change through logid to make it at least click while scrolling, but still!
They could, but what sells is faster polling rates, lower latency and maybe some arghgeebee
Apple is incapable of making a good mouse.
Their stubbornness on the mouse front (including refusal to add a second mouse button) at least got their trackpads (and associated gestures and haptics) to be the best in the game.
Still, I prefer using a mouse if I'm actually at a desk, so I just hook up a Logitech to my MacBook.
I hate trackpads in general.
Their first gen of touchpad however was the worst I ever saw
It was on the last PowerBook pro (I think)
And it was just yet another example of bad hardware apple released, but few people talk about, and Steve was in charge when it happened
Or a good keyboard.
They can make a decent touchpad. They can do a pretty nice touch gui. They still make beautiful displays. But they can't handle the essentials.
Also trackballs > mouse any day.
I was actually selling Apple gear when they released the Mighty mouse. It sounded AWESOME. We were so excited. On their ads, it sounded like we'd get a product with touchpad buttons basically that killed their previous (worse) puck mice.
What we got, was an overpriced mouse which was near-damned impossible to click the right button (you got RSI every time you tried) and which was physical click.
Microsoft's super cheap basic mice we sold 10x faster (at least), and were 1/3rd the price
The reality is, they really f*** up most of their products, but people make excuses for them. Even the iPod shuffle, there were good cheap alternatives (I had one), and mine even had a display. OSX 10 used to have corrupt preferences regularly, SMB was crap until at least OSX 10.5, etc. One release, there was a bug where the network broke completely after a few minutes (there is no way anyone couldn't have noticed during testing)
My Mac Studio M2 was the only computer I have ever had that had compatibility issues with some USB-C cables (and, it was a few of them from differing brands). Antenna gate, and they tried to water down the problems, by comparing to other manufacturers and said "if you hold them in this totally unrealistic way, you have similar issues"
Apple's following is cult like. Though they don't usually have major issues like Windows does, there are a fair number of Apple apologists.
Microsoft's following is more...stockholm-like.
MS did make some decent mice though. For a while, all I would buy was Intellimouses. Going back to like, balls. Not to mention my cool blue serial MS Home mouse. Then I was a Logitech guy for a while (especially after having to deal with their warranty process, like, one of the best, up there with Anker. At least, several years ago. Who knows what's changed since).
Decent gamepads for the era too. Sidewinder Gamepad was top-notch. I played loads of Quake with that before I learned about WASD. This is pre-analog, and I was actually pretty decent with it, iirc. Not nearly as good as I got to be with WASD tho.
Nowadays I love my Elecom Huge and 8bitdo gamepads.
I won't be an apple apologist: I've gone a decade without buying a new laptop because they were going through their crappy "butterfly keyboard"-phase, and I would never buy one of their mice (I use a >15 year old wired mouse that just works).
That said, if you want a machine that has top-of-the-line hardware, with a UNIX OS, and also the convenience of a commercially polished product, I don't see any viable alternatives. I've used Linux a bit, and that's pretty close. The only edge MacOS has on Linux is the simple convenience of having things like photos sync directly between units, and very good native support for backups via time capsule. Sure, you can configure/set up the same things on a Linux machine, but that would require some time+effort.
I've been thinking of setting up a self-hosted cloud storage for backups for a while. If I get around to that, I might finally make the switch. Regardless, I must admit that no one else is even close to delivering an as streamlined product as apple, that also lets me use Linux-forums when I need to figure out how to use some CLI tool.
I've been trying (like everyone else) for steam controller.
My sidewinder was awesome. Actually forgot all about it
I will say that if it had a port on the front my grandparents who bought Macs probably would have unboxed it, plugged it in, and used it like that for a decade without knowing it was wireless lol. And the battery lasts so long on these that it's not actually an issue really if you're living with it.
Still stupid tho
"our users are so fucking stupid, we had to kneecap our design and say it was superior"
I read that's why they did this: to force people to use it wirelessly. Not sure that's really a big win. Wired mice are just fine with me.
Lived? Aren't they still selling them like that?
The USB-C version they currently have for $80 on their website has the port on the bottom, yes.
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/mxk53am/a/magic-mouse-usb%E2%80%91c-white-multi-touch-surface
I don't think the shape or functionality of the mouse has changed much since the original version that took AAs, so I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this isn't even designers being snooty and it's just Apple not wanting to retool their manufacturing to accommodate a front charging port.
Still my favorite mouse I've ever used. Got it from work and expected to hate it, but there we were. I don't use it anymore since I switched to Linux. RIP. Now I have a proto arc, which is fine.