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[–] 10 points 4 months ago (72 children)

They believe marriage is for the sole purpose of procreation, which is their little loophole. They’re so weird about it that I’m surprised they’ve never pushed fertility tests as a pre requisite before allowing a marriage ceremony.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago*

    Then they should dissolve their marriages once their children move out, having fulfilled its only purpose. Staying married after you’re done having kids is lust, pride, and vanity.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    If they truly believe that then why are they all celibate? They are chalk full of pedophiles too. Why I hate any post praising the pope. Fucker also lives like a king. Wonder how many of the popes are pedophiles themselves.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Priests cannot marry. Marriage and the Priesthood (Holy Orders) are the only sacraments that are mutually exclusive.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Eastern Catholic priests can marry, actually. There are married Catholic priests out there right now, and not because they converted in from Anglicanism after they married (though those exist, too), but fully cradle Catholics who were married before their vocation. Somehow this has not exploded the church or whatever. It is inconsistent and ridiculous.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Had never heard of that before, thanks for the info

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    This is one of those pieces of info I try to slip in whenever possible. I'm a firm believer that celibacy is bad for the mind, body, and soul when it's forced on people. Priests may go into it willingly, but years and years of it with no reprieve does bad things to people's minds. If the church could make one reform that I genuinely believe would be best, it is the celibacy of clergy. Tons of reforms needed, but that one is the one I think needs to happen soonest.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Historically the priesthood/other holy orders was a place to toss the weird people or undesirable heirs. It was a convenient way for the gay uncle to have a respectable job and explain why they didn't have a wife. It was also a way to keep pedo types isolated but productive, at least until resources led to many orders dissolving.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    They don't believe that. They just say that. It'd be crazy if they actually believed it. Any reasonable person knows it's just bad faith rhetoric, not a true belief.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (6 children)

    Having been raised in the faith (I’ve walked away for a multitude of reasons) I assure you they do believe it. You’re not even allowed to take contraceptives or have a vasectomy

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    If that actually were the belief, sterile people would not be allowed to be married, and people's marriages would be annualled when they become sterile, through age or otherwise. Unless they're asking for these, they do not believe it. They may believe that they believe it, but they don't.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    They say those things are god’s will and thus not an issue. They leave the door open for “miracles” to occur.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Again, I'm reasonably certain they don't actually believe a 90 year old woman is suddenly going to get pregnant, or a woman who doesn't have a uterus anymore, or whatever else. These might be the words they're told to repeat to justify things, but they don't believe them. Not even the most devout would believe that.

    They may believe God could technically do this, but then he could also technically do the same for same sex couples. He's omnipotent, according to them, after all. His powers are not limited to only making miracles pregnancies to hetero couples. It's no more outrageous than expecting people physically incapable of becoming pregnant becoming pregnant. If they justify this belief based on miricles, then same sex marriage is equally justified. (This is not their belief. They don't believe the former premise, but this is the conclusion that it'd lead to.)

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