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[-] xijinpingist@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

That's what I used to think about Marx. It's tons of fun to poke holes in them and make them argue against themselves. You start with their premises and prove them wrong, with their premises. "Know thy enemy." -- Sun Tzu

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

it's tons of fun

yeah and some people enjoy getting pooped on or whatever but it ain't for me

[-] xijinpingist@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You don't get it: you start with heir premises, then prove how they're wrong, using their premises. It's incredible! You get them arguing against themselves then prove what they just did. They get angry, then you make memes about them getting angry.

[-] Ekranoplane@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

You did not think Marx was incoherent due to reading the Marxist arguments, but the vibes of the liberal zeitgeist. This is a different situation, since we're analyzing the actual arguments and finding no substance.

[-] xijinpingist@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

Pretend they have substance. Use your theory of mind.
Put yourself in another person's shoes and argue their points. Do it better than them.
Attorneys do it all the time.

[-] Ekranoplane@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

Once again asking how you would approach debating a flat earther then

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