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[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

So is the treatment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inoculation

For smallpox, they’d infect a break in your skin, deliberately. With actual smallpox. It was less likely to kill you, but absolutely possible and quite miserable.


But principle is the same. Outbreaks dramatically weaken war fighting capabilities, even if it’s “just” influenza. The history of warfare is littered with thousands of examples. For instance:

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/about-us/notes-museum/wwi-wwii-1918-influenza-pandemic-and-innovation

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/history-disease-outbreaks-vaccine-timeline/flu

…Which is why this is so egregious. Vaccination (compared to smallpox inoculation) is trivially easy in comparison to the decision Washington faced, and influenza has a long, grim history in the US military. No sane general would throw away such an easy, and historic, warfighting advantage.

[-] Karmanopoly@lemmy.world -5 points 5 days ago

Young, well fed, healthy troops do not suffer from the flu

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 15 points 5 days ago

Young, well fed, healthy troops do not suffer from the flu

... are you being fucking serious right now.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 10 points 5 days ago

Yes, it's a little known fact that viruses have an age range check. If you don't pass, they legally can't enter your body.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

...Yet young, well fed, healthy troops will suffer from the flu vaccine?

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago

.... Do you know what influenza even is? Are you mistaking it for the common cold? I've noticed a lot of people who disparage the flu and the flu vaccine think that it's just another word for the common cold everyone gets every year.

While unlikely to die, it can easily render them incapable of fighting or training for a week or so, and less effective for a around twice that long.

Saying "healthy people don't get sick" is either profoundly ignorant, or a self fulfilling tautology, since once you're sick your quite obviously not healthy.

In any case, there's no dimension where the flu vaccine isn't several order of magnitude less disruptive than the disease.

[-] athatet@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 days ago

lol no. All kinds of people get sick with the flu.

[-] yuri@pawb.social 8 points 5 days ago

it’d be really funny if you got hospitalized with regular ass influenza rn

[-] Karmanopoly@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

I'd probably not be young or well fed or healthy..

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

Wow, congratulations, you managed to put both your socks on all by yourself this morning! You’re very smart.

[-] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 5 points 5 days ago

Young, well fed men and women suffer from the flu every day lol. What are you smoking?

[-] Karmanopoly@lemmy.world -3 points 5 days ago

Smokers probably suffer from the flu

[-] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Just like everyone else my guy. Just to remind you, the Influenza pandemic killed hundreds of thousands if not millions of well fed, young, healthy soldiers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

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