184
submitted 3 days ago by git@hexbear.net to c/news@hexbear.net
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] xijinpingist@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago

MKUltra used traumatizing people as a method of mind control. Imagine this happening to you, deliberately. It's like reading the Epstein Files. It shook me to know this kind of Babylonian Moloch worship rituals could even exist in the real world. I hate to use an analogy like red pill but it's just like The Matrix, reality is worse than we ever imagined.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 22 points 3 days ago

Nothing in the Epstein files even remotely surprised me, just confirmed strong allegations that I had already believed to be true. I was a precocious teen in the mid 2000s and was into parapolitics after being confused about how invading Afghanistan tied into 9/11 at all. So ive been deeply cynical since age 13 or so. The depravity is the point into itself and they will never understand that's why theyre doing it and not cause it works. We have seen time and time again being this disgusting makes people disgusted. This are depraved and disgusting perverse acts. But they dont work, they dont terrify people into complying they make people hate them more and justifiably so. No one wants to be governed by sadistic perverted butchers.

[-] xijinpingist@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago

There are things in those files that the Romans destroyed Carthage for. I always wondered by Carthago delenda est was a slogan but we know now. Someone bothered to actually go out there and look and sure enough, there were buried mass (I can't say here but it's what you think it is.) Carefully placed in ritual positions, not just thrown into a pit like Babi Yar.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 22 points 3 days ago

Are you saying Carthage had dirt on Rome that even Romans would cop to? Cause Roman society openly celebrated that kind of slaughter anyway. The romans sucked and they were bragging about it all the time.

[-] xijinpingist@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago

They kept slaves (the kind without safe words) and the fact that even they were offended by Carthage's practices enough to destroy them speaks volumes. Hans, are we the baddies?

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 24 points 3 days ago

The thing Romans were offended by is that Carthage was their primary competitor. Everything else was just trying to justify it.

[-] xijinpingist@hexbear.net 3 points 3 days ago

They said the Carthaginians sacrificed babies to Moloch, which everyone assumed was a lie. A year or two ago someone bothered to actually dig, and lo and behold, baby skulls tacked up in neat rows.

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

Given the insane level of infant mortality in that age, it is much more probable that they died of natural causes.

[-] xijinpingist@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

Infant mortality is one thing but removing the heads of infants and putting them in vessels stacked neatly in rows?

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

It doesn't prove sacrifice. People all around the world often had weird funeral practices.

[-] xijinpingist@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

What a weird thing to cast doubt on. Moloch is the god of child sacrifice.

[-] Blakey@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

Moloch is the god of child sacrifice.

I assume you have a decent source for this, and are not just taking the bible (which advocates the destruction of moloch worshippers down to the last child) or Roman sources (who regarded Carthage as their greatest enemy) at face value, given that this sort of thing is an extremely common form of atrocity propaganda in all eras we have knowledge of including up to the present day. Otherwise, well, I'm sure you can find remains that support the claims of conquistadors that Aztecs sold human flesh in their markets or American claims of millions of dead Uyghurs. To my knowledge we don't even have particularly good proof that there even was a god called "moloch", a quick browse says that many modern scholars think the word may have referred to the sacrifice itself, and not a figure of worship.

[-] xijinpingist@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

Moloch (spelled differently) was the god of rain in the Levant. He demanded child sacrifice to ensure adequate rain. I never knew about this stuff until the Epstein Files came out and they were doing all this fucked-up shit on that island which matched up with the occult, and I don't mean Alestair Crowley. All I knew was that nethack had an altar of Moloch and if you messed with it you got hit by disintegration rays.

[-] Blakey@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

So no sources, just atrocity propaganda?

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago

So...you think the enemies of awful people must be even worse?

LIB

this post was submitted on 25 Apr 2026
184 points (100.0% liked)

news

24747 readers
560 users here now

Welcome to c/news! We aim to foster a book-club type environment for discussion and critical analysis of the news. Our policy objectives are:

We ask community members to appreciate the uncertainty inherent in critical analysis of current events, the need to constantly learn, and take part in the community with humility. None of us are the One True Leftist, not even you, the reader.

Newcomm and Newsmega Rules:

The Hexbear Code of Conduct and Terms of Service apply here.

  1. Link titles: Please use informative link titles. Overly editorialized titles, particularly if they link to opinion pieces, may get your post removed.

  2. Content warnings: Posts on the newscomm and top-level replies on the newsmega should use content warnings appropriately. Please be thoughtful about wording and triggers when describing awful things in post titles.

  3. Fake news: No fake news posts ever, including April 1st. Deliberate fake news posting is a bannable offense. If you mistakenly post fake news the mod team may ask you to delete/modify the post or we may delete it ourselves.

  4. Link sources: All posts must include a link to their source. Screenshots are fine IF you include the link in the post body. If you are citing a Twitter post as news, please include the Xcancel.com (or another Nitter instance) or at least strip out identifier information from the twitter link. There is also a Firefox extension that can redirect Twitter links to a Nitter instance, such as Libredirect or archive them as you would any other reactionary source.

  5. Archive sites: We highly encourage use of non-paywalled archive sites (i.e. archive.is, web.archive.org, ghostarchive.org) so that links are widely accessible to the community and so that reactionary sources don’t derive data/ad revenue from Hexbear users. If you see a link without an archive link, please archive it yourself and add it to the thread, ask the OP to fix it, or report to mods. Including text of articles in threads is welcome.

  6. Low effort material: Avoid memes/jokes/shitposts in newscomm posts and top-level replies to the newsmega. This kind of content is OK in post replies and in newsmega sub-threads. We encourage the community to balance their contribution of low effort material with effort posts, links to real news/analysis, and meaningful engagement with material posted in the community.

  7. American politics: Discussion and effort posts on the (potential) material impacts of American electoral politics is welcome, but the never-ending circus of American Politics© Brought to You by Mountain Dew™ is not welcome. This refers to polling, pundit reactions, electoral horse races, rumors of who might run, etc.

  8. Electoralism: Please try to avoid struggle sessions about the value of voting/taking part in the electoral system in the West. c/electoralism is right over there.

  9. AI Slop: Don't post AI generated content. Posts about AI race/chip wars/data centers are fine.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS