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"supposed" is a bit of a tricky word for biology anyway, given that it implies intent. I guess if one is religious it works, but otherwise, itd be ascribing thought to evolutionary processes that dont seem to have a mechanism for that.
Wouldn’t it be abnormal for a mammal to not grow hair though?
Depends on the mammal I guess, but sure. But, theres a difference between something being what typically happens, and what is supposed to happen. Were you somehow in charge of designing mammals, and decided that hair should be a crucial aspect of them, then you could say that they are supposed to have hair. But, absent anyone doing this, them having hair is simply how they happen to be and equally as unintended as them not having it, regardless of how overwhelming the percentage that has it is. If anything, one could argue that if a person shaves their hair, or decides not while being given the option, then that person has actively taken charge of designing their own appearance, at least in that regard, and therefore the way they are "supposed" to look is the way they intend to make themselves look.
I don’t believe there are any truly hairless mammals?
I wouldn't know if like naked mole rats or Sphinx cats or whatever are truly hairless or not, but tbh it doesn't really matter for what I was trying to say.
I have never seen a dolphin, dugong or whale with hair
Dolphins are born with hair on their snout.
There is a certain degree of genetics and environmental adaptation here as well. Not all ethnic groups share similar body hair genes. It doesnt even seen to correlate to something like melanin production and higher/lower latitudes since body hair across Africa varies wildliy.
Oh come on.
It is normal for women to grow body hair.
Of course - what I'm saying is that there's huge variation within humans. Some ethnic groups simply don't grow as much body hair, or it's not nearly as course or pronounced. My partner can go weeks without shaving her legs and it's almost impossible to tell. Many East Asian ethnic groups have far less hair than Europeans or Levant peoples. People in West Africa have relatively little body hair, while I've seen women with full on beards and chest hair in southern African countries.
If this conversation is between a Maori or Norwegian kid and a Bulgarian or Spanish or Armenian babysitter, that's a stark contrast that actually would be plausible without the reality of unreasonable beauty standards ruining everyone's day.
That variation also means that the "logic" of comparing leg hair to cancer makes as much sense as comparing leg hair to my nipples. They don't do anything either, but XY bodies still get them. And I would bet $10 that any kid young enough to be baby-sat and say that grows up to get lip filler and joker-esque work done by the age of 28.
It's much more likely that the young boy in the post has picked up on societal expectations that women are supposed to shave their legs.
The amount of reaching in these comments to avoid assigning any blame to the patriarchy for these standards women are held to is astonishing.
For sure, patriarchal beauty standards are to blame here. However, it's also sort of weird to suggest that ALL woman, and in fact, all humans, have roughly similar body hair. That's simply false, and easily proved false if anyone cares about facts.
This isn't some black and white issue, it's something with degrees of truth, that's all.
I never claimed all women have the same type and amount of body hair, but all women do grow body hair.
I never said you did. Everyone in this thread is, though.
You and I are having a back and forth direct conversation. Keep up or be more clear.
Really? Because mostly I'm seeing a bunch of men arguing that we should all ignore the societal pressure on women to shave their body hair because this is actually an argument about whether hair growth can be compared to cancer.
OK, well you responded to a comment that wasn't for you anyway and seem to have misunderstood the point of the comment all along.
And it's me that should "keep up"?
I've been in this conversation for a hot minute now. You replied to my comment:
And here we are.
The conversation isn't about the different types of body hair women can grow.
No. There's plenty of mammals without hair.
Women are not those types of mammals.