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A reminder that as the US continues to threaten countries around the world, fedposting is to be very much avoided (even with qualifiers like "in Minecraft") and comments containing it will be removed.

Image is of a destroyed American AWACS plane in Saudi Arabia, of which there is a very limited supply and each of which is enormously expensive both monetarily and in terms of components. Iran hit this with a precision drone strike that likely cost ~$20,000.


I don't have much to add from the last megathread description. This isn't to say that nothing has happened or has changed since then - decades are still happening in weeks - but the general flow of the war is remaining the same. Trump sometimes threatens to open the Strait with troops and flatten Iran to rubble, and other times threatens that he's gonna back off and let other countries handle it if they really want little trifles like "fuel" and "energy" so much. Iran continues to strike across the Middle East. The West continues to bomb civilian infrastructure due to their relative inability to affect the missile cities. In all: things are generally getting worse for America and the Zionists.

April is the month where the last ships that left Hormuz before it was closed will arrive around the world, so the last month of economic turmoil has been a mere prelude to what's going to occur in the near-future. The silver lining is that Iran appears to be formalizing the new state of affairs in Hormuz, creating a rial-based toll to allow passage between a pair of Iranian-controlled islands where they can be monitored, meaning that, as long as the US doesn't do something exceptionally stupid, the global energy crisis may "only" last a couple years instead of simply being the new reality from now on. Some countries have already agreed to this arrangement, and others will inevitably follow despite their consternation as their economies increasingly suffer.


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https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
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[-] woodenghost@hexbear.net 57 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Parenti:

“I’m not one of those critics that believes U.S. foreign policy is confused, or stupid, or misinformed, or well-intentioned but it goes awry. I think it’s a brilliant policy filled with many brilliant, terrible, horrible victories.” In order to further the interests of the super-rich, destruction is imposed when it “systematically undermines any movement, any country, any leadership, any popular group that tries an alternative way of self-defining, self-developing, using the resources, the markets, the labor of their society for their own needs, rather than for a multi-corporate global system, a neo-liberal system, which seems to be the goal of this reactionary clique in office today.

Yes, USians are delusional, the empire is now slowly falling and the contradictions are mounting so high it's staggering how they are still not obvious to some people. But the core problem is to think in terms of nation states instead of classes. The nation can in principle lose an imperialist war, while it's ruling class is still winning the class war. That's what happened in all the previous wars and It's still to early to call for the current one.

The idea of the "inept empire" is liberal propaganda

There’s a very popular theory of politics that sees the destruction and misery wrought by regimes like the Wars on Terror and Drugs, compares the professed motives with the outcomes, and concludes that those in power are some combination of utterly incompetent, shortsighted, and ignorant of how to build a decent world.

From "The mainstream and the margins: Noam Chomsky vs. Michael Parenti", which links to many of Parentis articles and interviews criticizing this idea.

For example: The Iraq War Is a Smashing Success, by Michael Parenti

The US invasion was not quick, easy, or dearly welcomed by Iraqis, but it “destroyed a country that had the audacity to retain control of its own oil supply, kept its entire economy under state control, did not invite the IMF or the giant transnational corporations in [and] charted an independent course. So he and his country have been correctly destroyed in keeping with the interests of the US-led global empire.”

On Afghanistan:

The same is true in Afghanistan. When an interviewer asked Parenti how Afghanistan could be seen as a success rather than a quagmire, Parenti responded that “They are going to lose Afghanistan, but they do succeed, they succeeded in stopping the betterment of the masses of people.” Parenti explains that “When the productive social capital of any part of the world is obliterated, the potential value of private capital elsewhere is enhanced — especially when the crisis faced today by western capitalism is one of overcapacity.”

On Yugoslavia:

Thus, “To destroy publicly-run Yugoslav factories that produced auto parts, appliances, or fertilizer—or a publicly financed Sudanese plant that produced pharmaceuticals at prices substantially below their western competitors—is to enhance the investment value of western producers.” In concrete terms, this happened in Yugoslavia when NATO bombed the state-owned DIN tobacco company and the local Zastava motor works for the sake of Phillip Morris and Ford; Greg Elich recounts how DIN was rebuilt and “made fit for privatization by a new Western-friendly government, as 1,400 employees were thrown out of work. In October 2003, DIN was purchased by Philip Morris, which six years later eliminated a third of the remaining workforce.”

In general:

“The national policies of an imperialist country reflect the interests of that country’s dominant class,” argues Parenti in “Costs of Empire and Role of IMF”: Class, rather than nation-state, is often the crucial unit of analysis for studying imperialism. And if you understand that then you will avoid the mistake of a lot of liberal writers who say ’empire doesn’t make sense, it costs too much! It’s irrational.’ It’s been pointed out that from 1950 to 1970, the US government gave the Philippines $3 billion in aid when the US has only a billion dollars of investments in the Philippines. ‘See, it’s irrational, it costs more than what we’re getting back!’ That’s the liberal view. Now, if you think with Marx, if you think in terms of class, you understand that that is not irrational at all, because the people who are paying the 3 billion are not the same as the people who are making the 1 billion investment. The people who are paying the 3 billion are us. And the people who are making the 1 billion are Exxon and ITT and IBM and General Dynamics and General Motors and General Electric and all the other Generals! And they’ll spend 3 dollars of your money to protect 1 dollar of their money. They’ll spend 4 dollars of your money, 5 dollars, 6 dollars—in fact, when it comes to protecting their money, your money is no object!

As Parenti and Gowans point out, this is because the Inept Empire theory is a liberal one, premised on a nation-based reading of society rather than a socialist, class-based one. As such, the liberal theory creates an artificial sense of identification between the different classes of a nation, whitewashing the class antagonisms that would motivate upheavals for a more equitable system. Even a relatively clear-eyed critic of Empire must believe good faith-motivation on the part of our rulers—at worst, they must be incompetent, rather than evil.

The capitalist ruling class is still winning. The current moment and the sacrifices of the resistance offer a chance for communists, but we still have to take it and use it.

[-] immuredanchorite@hexbear.net 22 points 22 hours ago

excellent points. Parenti was so clear-eyed. This is why, even though the US media doesn’t focus on it and it can be easy to gloss over, Iran attacking/threatening US/Israeli business investments in the region directly (OpenAI, Amazon, as well as Oil/Gas infrastructure propping up the GCC ruling classes in partnership with US oil companies) and dictating terms for the flow of nearly 20% of commerce (and likely a much much larger % of regional commerce) is incredibly damaging.

The loss of a 20B dollar investments with a few drones or missiles will hurt the ruling class more than the 1B dollars spend every day bombing Iran (on top of the billions of military assets the US built in the region over half a century or more). Right now the market isn’t reflecting this at all, or the looming catastrophe -the global economy beginning to experience food shortages and as the true deficit of oil usable is revealed that was only slowed by releasing strategic reserves. Qatari officials admitted they lost 20B on a 26B investment that will take six years to recover from. I read that some of the data centers being targeted are also nearly 20 billion investments on their own. We may be entering a period where those investments cannot be rebuilt and recouped without Iran’s approval- making the ruling class desire for a US victory more imperative, and ultimately more fraught.

I guess the question is ultimately whether the US ruling class won’t simply pocket more super profits from the regional collapse, or even get bailed out. It honestly seems likely if the global financial system doesn’t change more fundamentally

Excellent quotes - I think about these every time I see comments and posts about Biden or Trump having dementia. It could be true, or not, but has no real connection to the empire or what choices it's making, good or bad.

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