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William Frank Jr., born on this day in 1931, was an indigenous environmental leader and treaty rights activist known for his use of the "fish-in", a civil disobedience tactic used to win indigenous rights to natural resources.

A Nisqually tribal member, Frank is particularly known for his grassroots campaign for fishing rights on the tribe's Nisqually River. Frank was arrested more than 50 times in the "Fish Wars" of the 1960s and 1970s because of his intense dedication to the treaty fishing rights cause.

The tribal struggle was taken to the courts in "U.S. v. Washington", with federal judge George Hugo Boldt issuing a ruling in favor of the native tribes in 1974. The "Boldt Decision" established the 20 treaty Indian tribes in western Washington as co-managers of the salmon resource with the State of Washington, and re-affirmed tribal rights to half of the harvestable salmon returning to western Washington.

https://billyfrankjr.org/

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[-] Ath3ro@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago

damn this is incredible, good writing. i’ve always had a problem with taking antinatalists seriously because it’s always some of the most privileged people on earth like until you get a sudanese or palestinian kid in front of me who supports it, it will always be a deeply unserious world view

[-] Angel@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

Thanks!

And that's another thing: due to how subjective, vapid, and abstract antinatalism is, I can say with 99.9999% certainty that antinatalism will never have any serious material political relevance.

It's a tall order to succeed in a large scale effort to convince most of society that procreation, a widely celebrated and cherished act since the beginning of humanity, is ackchyually unethical when all antinatalists have is shaky reasoning with no real serious foundation or substance.

Like I said, even so many antinatalists themselves will point to systemic issues as a way to do what they think is arguing for antinatalism, but in this case, most rational people would just respond by saying, "Why not solve those systemic issues, then?" And after that? Maybe, at that point, we then could revisit this antinatalism question to see if it is truly worth considering when society is devoid of many of the ills that antinatalists point to as a way to very misguidedly say, "See, look! I told you procreation is wrong!"

No, seriously: To prove my point, here are some of the things [in written form] I found on the very first page of r/antinatalism (sorted by hot):

r/antinatalism

  1. "Does anyone else feel deeply uncomfortable with the fact that their body can reproduce? When I think about it, I feel a kind of physical disgust with my own body, the idea that it was built for something I never want. The organs, the cycles, the biological machinery of it all. The idea that nature designed these bodies to keep its cycle going indifferent and relentless. The same nature that would let any of us starve, freeze, or disappear without a second thought. Yet somehow we’re supposed to feel honored to serve it by reproducing. I don’t feel honored by that. I feel used by it. I think I would feel more at peace in my body if I factually knew it couldn’t reproduce."

  2. "What is dumb is seeing all the suffering, all the wars, all the injustices in the world and thinking to yourself 'ah yes, lets pop more kids out to experience this"

  3. (A meme) "I've tasted unemployment and I've tasted 9-5. I recommend not being born."

  4. (Another meme) "Me thinking about how I have to work to make money to afford to live on a planet I didn't even ask to be on."

  5. (A title) "Having kids TODAY [emphasis on this word] is extremely selfish"


Now some posts on the first page of r/antinatalism sorted by top (all time):

  1. "The idea of having to 'earn a living' implies that, by default, you don't actually deserve to be alive."

  2. [A meme showing pro-lifers hypocritically concerned about the lives of fetuses while neglecting starving African children]

  3. [Anti-capitalist meme mocking the bourgeoisie for saying, 'You must give birth to give us more consumers and workers. Also, it'll cost you $20K to give birth. Be back at the office on Monday or you're fired."] [end of list]

I could carry on, but you get the point, right?

What's something that all of these have in common?

Technically, they don't have anything to do with antinatalism at all.

Like I said, antinatalism posits that reproduction is inherently wrong, so if someone is arguing, "Damn, it really sucks that I came into existence because capitalism is exploiting me," in no way could that sincerely be a line of thinking leading into antinatalism. As I stated, a rational person would just see this as a reason to abolish fucking capitalism.

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago

I wonder also, if they truly believe reproduction is wrong what does thay mean for the existence of humanity as a whole? Is humanity itself inherently wrong in that case? It feels like such a slippery slope that can only end up sounding much like eco-fascism/Malthusian thought.

[-] Angel@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago

CW: Suicide, ExtinctionismAntinatalists do agree with extinction as the conclusion of it all, yes, but the thing is that they may disagree with the means of achieving such.

Some antinatalists, for instance, just simply want people to stop reproducing and have humanity as a whole gradually fade into non-existence.

Other antinatalists are mask-off and would support shit like dropping a bomb on everyone or people committing mass suicide. These people are often considered EFILists ([life backwards]ists), extinctionists, and promortalists.

Obviously, the former is far less insufferable and doesn't have nearly as much of an edgy white boy vibe as the latter, but both are deeply flawed.

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