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Ethnic Minorities and People of Color
Official Title of this Community: Ethnic Minorities and People of Color
Why is the title different?
We like to have fun here.
What is this place? A safe space for underrepresented peoples and peoples of color to talk, chill, and vibe.
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Follow Lemmy TOS and Community Guidelines. Non negotiable. This is the bedrock and mods will make decisions with this always in mind.
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This community is for ethnic minorities and people of color. This is a safe space where such people can freely discuss their struggles, insight, and thoughts without fear. If you are not, we respectfully ask you do not post or comment here. A future community will be established to allow for racial discussions with a mixed userbase. However, remember, comments here must still respect Lemmy TOS and Community Guidelines.
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Irony Racism is still racism. Racism is bad m'kay? We will treat irony racism and bad faith racist satire as racism. Will wield the ban hammer accordingly.
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FAQ
I don't look XYZ and/or sometimes I can pass as white so I don't know if I can post here. Can I?
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This place is for ethnic minorities and people of color. This includes those of mixed heritage and those who may be "white" but are of an ethnicity that is a minority in their area (i.e. Kurds, etc) If you've experienced oppression due to your identity that is not based on sexual / gender identification, you are welcome here.
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Moreover, for our American audience, we have people from around the world who are "white" but are oppressed due to being a minority in their country. They are and should be welcomed here.
What can I post?
- Anything you think is relevant to the mission of this community. Things will evolve over time.
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Suggested Posts
- [People of Spice]: Food recipes so others can taste your culture
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damn this is incredible, good writing. i’ve always had a problem with taking antinatalists seriously because it’s always some of the most privileged people on earth like until you get a sudanese or palestinian kid in front of me who supports it, it will always be a deeply unserious world view
Thanks!
And that's another thing: due to how subjective, vapid, and abstract antinatalism is, I can say with 99.9999% certainty that antinatalism will never have any serious material political relevance.
It's a tall order to succeed in a large scale effort to convince most of society that procreation, a widely celebrated and cherished act since the beginning of humanity, is ackchyually unethical when all antinatalists have is shaky reasoning with no real serious foundation or substance.
Like I said, even so many antinatalists themselves will point to systemic issues as a way to do what they think is arguing for antinatalism, but in this case, most rational people would just respond by saying, "Why not solve those systemic issues, then?" And after that? Maybe, at that point, we then could revisit this antinatalism question to see if it is truly worth considering when society is devoid of many of the ills that antinatalists point to as a way to very misguidedly say, "See, look! I told you procreation is wrong!"
No, seriously: To prove my point, here are some of the things [in written form] I found on the very first page of r/antinatalism (sorted by hot):
r/antinatalism
"Does anyone else feel deeply uncomfortable with the fact that their body can reproduce? When I think about it, I feel a kind of physical disgust with my own body, the idea that it was built for something I never want. The organs, the cycles, the biological machinery of it all. The idea that nature designed these bodies to keep its cycle going indifferent and relentless. The same nature that would let any of us starve, freeze, or disappear without a second thought. Yet somehow we’re supposed to feel honored to serve it by reproducing. I don’t feel honored by that. I feel used by it. I think I would feel more at peace in my body if I factually knew it couldn’t reproduce."
"What is dumb is seeing all the suffering, all the wars, all the injustices in the world and thinking to yourself 'ah yes, lets pop more kids out to experience this"
(A meme) "I've tasted unemployment and I've tasted 9-5. I recommend not being born."
(Another meme) "Me thinking about how I have to work to make money to afford to live on a planet I didn't even ask to be on."
(A title) "Having kids TODAY [emphasis on this word] is extremely selfish"
Now some posts on the first page of r/antinatalism sorted by top (all time):
"The idea of having to 'earn a living' implies that, by default, you don't actually deserve to be alive."
[A meme showing pro-lifers hypocritically concerned about the lives of fetuses while neglecting starving African children]
[Anti-capitalist meme mocking the bourgeoisie for saying, 'You must give birth to give us more consumers and workers. Also, it'll cost you $20K to give birth. Be back at the office on Monday or you're fired."] [end of list]
I could carry on, but you get the point, right?
What's something that all of these have in common?
Technically, they don't have anything to do with antinatalism at all.
Like I said, antinatalism posits that reproduction is inherently wrong, so if someone is arguing, "Damn, it really sucks that I came into existence because capitalism is exploiting me," in no way could that sincerely be a line of thinking leading into antinatalism. As I stated, a rational person would just see this as a reason to abolish fucking capitalism.
I wonder also, if they truly believe reproduction is wrong what does thay mean for the existence of humanity as a whole? Is humanity itself inherently wrong in that case? It feels like such a slippery slope that can only end up sounding much like eco-fascism/Malthusian thought.
CW: Suicide, Extinctionism
Antinatalists do agree with extinction as the conclusion of it all, yes, but the thing is that they may disagree with the means of achieving such.Some antinatalists, for instance, just simply want people to stop reproducing and have humanity as a whole gradually fade into non-existence.
Other antinatalists are mask-off and would support shit like dropping a bomb on everyone or people committing mass suicide. These people are often considered EFILists ([life backwards]ists), extinctionists, and promortalists.
Obviously, the former is far less insufferable and doesn't have nearly as much of an edgy white boy vibe as the latter, but both are deeply flawed.