So if something bad happens in any country, from any government abusing it's citizens, that is also not allowed? Because that's not how it seems to work. It's specifically US politics posts that get removed.
If you are posting your "other country politics" in a comm that says "no political posts" then yes your post should be removed from that comm. Go post it in one of the 23 quadrillion political communities instead. You want me to post about FedoraKDE issues I'm having in c/pics or c/EpsteinFiles, or should I post it in one of the 40 godzillion Linux comms?
Probably the reason you're seeing mostly US politics get removed is because they won't shut the fuck up and stop posting it in unrelated comms or without checking if someone else beat them to it thus making theirs a redundant double in a comm. People from like, Luxembourg or fucking Cambodia, just aren't doing that type of thing. And tbh if they were it might slip by on language barrier alone.
Evidently the sentiment isn't having a wide enough reach, as people are crawling into their echo chambers to avoid not having to deal with the fallout of their apathy, handing elections over to the nasties.
Not everyone was German/Italian/Japanese in the 1930s-40s either. Pretty sure those countries still affected others, though.
And somehow reminding everyone on this echo chamber again even in non-political communities is going to reach those not here to see it? Just put it in the damn communities it belongs in problem solved, everyone here will see it but I can also go look at cool owls and shit for a second in peace, win win.
"Just put everything in that box in the cellar where it belongs" is not how discourse works. If you start filtering out specific ideas then you create the exact kind of algorithm driven dystopia you see on TikTok, only you do it manually. It is a direct way to silence legitimate thoughts and opinions to appease some small subset of angsty teenagers who want everything to be fucking slop enema without any critical thought attached ever. It's sad to see on here, this was supposed to be an alternative to that dumb shit on reddit, yet here people are trying to turn it into the same.
I could just as easily say "go watch that shit on Discord if you don't like it", because that's basically what your argument amounts to.
It isn't "the box in the cellar" if it's just on another comm on all, ffs.
If you fuckers wouldn't evangelise so hard that it becomes inescapable when someone just wants to look at a cute doggy for a short break, people wouldn't have to use keyword censors to stop seeing all your content, meaning they'd still see some. You're incentivising the exact cellar scenario you speak against, good job.
Let people have interests other than yours, you selfish prick, just because I don't want to see politics in a non political community doesn't mean I never engage with politics. Maybe if you can't follow the agreed upon rules of a community and have to bully your way into it, you aren't as left as you seem to think. I hope you get the help you need.
"Tiny boxes" as in "the appropriate space where political discussion is welcome" is bad but "fuck you and your community rules what I say goes and you must see political shit in a dog community or whatever because you cannot breathe for ten fucking minutes" is good.
Enjoy contributing to burnout and forcing people to use wordlist blockers to censor all of the content instead of them seeing some, hurting your own cause can be good if it makes you feel morally superior to everyone else, though.
No u, you're the one who, on a conversation about not putting political things in rules-specified apolitical communities, decided to equate "talking about it in the appropriate place" to "echo chamber blah blah blah there must be no brief respite from my political posts even on communities that are specifically for other things despite there being mostly fucking political communities here." As if posting on lemmy comms that are unrelated actually does fuck all for anyone in an actual echo chamber that might need to hear it. Go tell Rumble ffs, or goddamn threads/bluesky even, lemmy is already the echo chamber that knows all the other posts on lemmy it isn't that big dude.
An assault on democracy anywhere is an assault of democracy everywhere, first of all, secondly what happens in the USA directly impacts the rest of the world, not sure if you noticed. Thirdly, the fact that we're not on the fence is precisely because we talk about it. It's not just about ICE, it's about all politics, it has a direct impact on how we think and feel about things in our own countries- case in point being how for instance right wing regimes in the EU are now vying to implement ICE like measures along the mediterranean, and being aware of and taking a stance against that shit as it happens abroad is the first step to prevent it at home, memes be damned.
You're not even preaching to the choir, you're preaching to a whole congregation of other preachers. Trying to explain how important communion is to a Catholic priest. But it ain't Sunday, and we're not at Mass right now. Time, place, audience. Do you think the people of Lemmy would be in favor of right-wing political parties taking over their countries, if only they weren't inundated with the very same American politics that they whine about constantly seeing?
I disagree with your third point. We're not on the fence about ICE, not because people like you won't shut up about them, but because we're all leftists here. Being against ICE is as fundamental an aspect of our political alignment as being in favor of universal healthcare and funding children's school lunches. We're not about to start thinking that it's okay to starve children, if only we stop talking about it for 10 minutes.
An assault on democracy anywhere is an assault on democracy everywhere, but the battleground is not the showerthoughts community on one instance of Lemmy
And some of us aren't even American, and sometimes it's nice after being reminded of it in 4 other daily posts and it being on the news I can go "well all that is probably enough reminding me of that event for today, I'd like to go look at cats for FIVE MINUTES and not have it be there too."
"No politics please" sounds like a great rule until the results of politics kick down your door and black bag you.
the phrase "sir, this is a wendy's" comes to mind
There are enough places to talk about it, also not everyone is American
So if something bad happens in any country, from any government abusing it's citizens, that is also not allowed? Because that's not how it seems to work. It's specifically US politics posts that get removed.
If you are posting your "other country politics" in a comm that says "no political posts" then yes your post should be removed from that comm. Go post it in one of the 23 quadrillion political communities instead. You want me to post about FedoraKDE issues I'm having in c/pics or c/EpsteinFiles, or should I post it in one of the 40 godzillion Linux comms?
Probably the reason you're seeing mostly US politics get removed is because they won't shut the fuck up and stop posting it in unrelated comms or without checking if someone else beat them to it thus making theirs a redundant double in a comm. People from like, Luxembourg or fucking Cambodia, just aren't doing that type of thing. And tbh if they were it might slip by on language barrier alone.
You seem bitter. Hope whatever's bothering you gets better.
Me too, I'll lyk when y'all start following the rules and keeping politics where it belongs and not where it doesn't.
Yeah, most of the time it is US politics getting removed, because 10,000 other NA users have already posted about the same thing lol.
Evidently the sentiment isn't having a wide enough reach, as people are crawling into their echo chambers to avoid not having to deal with the fallout of their apathy, handing elections over to the nasties.
Not everyone was German/Italian/Japanese in the 1930s-40s either. Pretty sure those countries still affected others, though.
I an pretty sure all you guys ever do is complain and bitch and moan. But taking action as a US-ian? "where is my burger?"
And somehow reminding everyone on this echo chamber again even in non-political communities is going to reach those not here to see it? Just put it in the damn communities it belongs in problem solved, everyone here will see it but I can also go look at cool owls and shit for a second in peace, win win.
"Just put everything in that box in the cellar where it belongs" is not how discourse works. If you start filtering out specific ideas then you create the exact kind of algorithm driven dystopia you see on TikTok, only you do it manually. It is a direct way to silence legitimate thoughts and opinions to appease some small subset of angsty teenagers who want everything to be fucking slop enema without any critical thought attached ever. It's sad to see on here, this was supposed to be an alternative to that dumb shit on reddit, yet here people are trying to turn it into the same.
I could just as easily say "go watch that shit on Discord if you don't like it", because that's basically what your argument amounts to.
It isn't "the box in the cellar" if it's just on another comm on all, ffs.
If you fuckers wouldn't evangelise so hard that it becomes inescapable when someone just wants to look at a cute doggy for a short break, people wouldn't have to use keyword censors to stop seeing all your content, meaning they'd still see some. You're incentivising the exact cellar scenario you speak against, good job.
Let people have interests other than yours, you selfish prick, just because I don't want to see politics in a non political community doesn't mean I never engage with politics. Maybe if you can't follow the agreed upon rules of a community and have to bully your way into it, you aren't as left as you seem to think. I hope you get the help you need.
Somehow putting uncomfortable conversations into tiny boxes everyone avoids doesn't feel like the way to stop the rise of the far right.
Enjoy the sand around your head, though.
"Tiny boxes" as in "the appropriate space where political discussion is welcome" is bad but "fuck you and your community rules what I say goes and you must see political shit in a dog community or whatever because you cannot breathe for ten fucking minutes" is good.
Enjoy contributing to burnout and forcing people to use wordlist blockers to censor all of the content instead of them seeing some, hurting your own cause can be good if it makes you feel morally superior to everyone else, though.
You're constructed an excellent false dichotomy there, haven't you?
No u, you're the one who, on a conversation about not putting political things in rules-specified apolitical communities, decided to equate "talking about it in the appropriate place" to "echo chamber blah blah blah there must be no brief respite from my political posts even on communities that are specifically for other things despite there being mostly fucking political communities here." As if posting on lemmy comms that are unrelated actually does fuck all for anyone in an actual echo chamber that might need to hear it. Go tell Rumble ffs, or goddamn threads/bluesky even, lemmy is already the echo chamber that knows all the other posts on lemmy it isn't that big dude.
What good does reminding us of Alex Pretti's death do? We're not exactly on the fence about ICE here on Lemmy
An assault on democracy anywhere is an assault of democracy everywhere, first of all, secondly what happens in the USA directly impacts the rest of the world, not sure if you noticed. Thirdly, the fact that we're not on the fence is precisely because we talk about it. It's not just about ICE, it's about all politics, it has a direct impact on how we think and feel about things in our own countries- case in point being how for instance right wing regimes in the EU are now vying to implement ICE like measures along the mediterranean, and being aware of and taking a stance against that shit as it happens abroad is the first step to prevent it at home, memes be damned.
You're not even preaching to the choir, you're preaching to a whole congregation of other preachers. Trying to explain how important communion is to a Catholic priest. But it ain't Sunday, and we're not at Mass right now. Time, place, audience. Do you think the people of Lemmy would be in favor of right-wing political parties taking over their countries, if only they weren't inundated with the very same American politics that they whine about constantly seeing?
I disagree with your third point. We're not on the fence about ICE, not because people like you won't shut up about them, but because we're all leftists here. Being against ICE is as fundamental an aspect of our political alignment as being in favor of universal healthcare and funding children's school lunches. We're not about to start thinking that it's okay to starve children, if only we stop talking about it for 10 minutes.
An assault on democracy anywhere is an assault on democracy everywhere, but the battleground is not the showerthoughts community on one instance of Lemmy
And some of us aren't even American, and sometimes it's nice after being reminded of it in 4 other daily posts and it being on the news I can go "well all that is probably enough reminding me of that event for today, I'd like to go look at cats for FIVE MINUTES and not have it be there too."
It's not politics, it is current events.