Evidently the sentiment isn't having a wide enough reach, as people are crawling into their echo chambers to avoid not having to deal with the fallout of their apathy, handing elections over to the nasties.
Not everyone was German/Italian/Japanese in the 1930s-40s either. Pretty sure those countries still affected others, though.
We have a rather extreme voter apathy epidemic combined with the resultant diarchy, where the main objective is not solving problems, but ensuring the top two dogs are always on top followed by winning the next election against the other team.
You wrongfully assert 100% of Americans don't care and don't do anything; it's more that a large enough percentage of Americans don't care and don't do anything such that the powers that be know they can do whatever awful thing they want to do for their donors.
And somehow reminding everyone on this echo chamber again even in non-political communities is going to reach those not here to see it? Just put it in the damn communities it belongs in problem solved, everyone here will see it but I can also go look at cool owls and shit for a second in peace, win win.
"Just put everything in that box in the cellar where it belongs" is not how discourse works. If you start filtering out specific ideas then you create the exact kind of algorithm driven dystopia you see on TikTok, only you do it manually. It is a direct way to silence legitimate thoughts and opinions to appease some small subset of angsty teenagers who want everything to be fucking slop enema without any critical thought attached ever. It's sad to see on here, this was supposed to be an alternative to that dumb shit on reddit, yet here people are trying to turn it into the same.
I could just as easily say "go watch that shit on Discord if you don't like it", because that's basically what your argument amounts to.
It isn't "the box in the cellar" if it's just on another comm on all, ffs.
If you fuckers wouldn't evangelise so hard that it becomes inescapable when someone just wants to look at a cute doggy for a short break, people wouldn't have to use keyword censors to stop seeing all your content, meaning they'd still see some. You're incentivising the exact cellar scenario you speak against, good job.
Let people have interests other than yours, you selfish prick, just because I don't want to see politics in a non political community doesn't mean I never engage with politics. Maybe if you can't follow the agreed upon rules of a community and have to bully your way into it, you aren't as left as you seem to think. I hope you get the help you need.
"Tiny boxes" as in "the appropriate space where political discussion is welcome" is bad but "fuck you and your community rules what I say goes and you must see political shit in a dog community or whatever because you cannot breathe for ten fucking minutes" is good.
Enjoy contributing to burnout and forcing people to use wordlist blockers to censor all of the content instead of them seeing some, hurting your own cause can be good if it makes you feel morally superior to everyone else, though.
No u, you're the one who, on a conversation about not putting political things in rules-specified apolitical communities, decided to equate "talking about it in the appropriate place" to "echo chamber blah blah blah there must be no brief respite from my political posts even on communities that are specifically for other things despite there being mostly fucking political communities here." As if posting on lemmy comms that are unrelated actually does fuck all for anyone in an actual echo chamber that might need to hear it. Go tell Rumble ffs, or goddamn threads/bluesky even, lemmy is already the echo chamber that knows all the other posts on lemmy it isn't that big dude.
Your comment was a pain to read. Am I understanding you're mostly repeating yourself and ignoring my point about your false dichotomy?
Nobody here is saying we need to invade /c/cutepicsofpuppies with Donald Trump is Bad posts. You're saying "Get Politics off my Lemmy." I'm saying somewhere in the middle is best.
Evidently the sentiment isn't having a wide enough reach, as people are crawling into their echo chambers to avoid not having to deal with the fallout of their apathy, handing elections over to the nasties.
Not everyone was German/Italian/Japanese in the 1930s-40s either. Pretty sure those countries still affected others, though.
I an pretty sure all you guys ever do is complain and bitch and moan. But taking action as a US-ian? "where is my burger?"
We have a rather extreme voter apathy epidemic combined with the resultant diarchy, where the main objective is not solving problems, but ensuring the top two dogs are always on top followed by winning the next election against the other team.
You wrongfully assert 100% of Americans don't care and don't do anything; it's more that a large enough percentage of Americans don't care and don't do anything such that the powers that be know they can do whatever awful thing they want to do for their donors.
And somehow reminding everyone on this echo chamber again even in non-political communities is going to reach those not here to see it? Just put it in the damn communities it belongs in problem solved, everyone here will see it but I can also go look at cool owls and shit for a second in peace, win win.
"Just put everything in that box in the cellar where it belongs" is not how discourse works. If you start filtering out specific ideas then you create the exact kind of algorithm driven dystopia you see on TikTok, only you do it manually. It is a direct way to silence legitimate thoughts and opinions to appease some small subset of angsty teenagers who want everything to be fucking slop enema without any critical thought attached ever. It's sad to see on here, this was supposed to be an alternative to that dumb shit on reddit, yet here people are trying to turn it into the same.
I could just as easily say "go watch that shit on Discord if you don't like it", because that's basically what your argument amounts to.
It isn't "the box in the cellar" if it's just on another comm on all, ffs.
If you fuckers wouldn't evangelise so hard that it becomes inescapable when someone just wants to look at a cute doggy for a short break, people wouldn't have to use keyword censors to stop seeing all your content, meaning they'd still see some. You're incentivising the exact cellar scenario you speak against, good job.
Let people have interests other than yours, you selfish prick, just because I don't want to see politics in a non political community doesn't mean I never engage with politics. Maybe if you can't follow the agreed upon rules of a community and have to bully your way into it, you aren't as left as you seem to think. I hope you get the help you need.
Somehow putting uncomfortable conversations into tiny boxes everyone avoids doesn't feel like the way to stop the rise of the far right.
Enjoy the sand around your head, though.
"Tiny boxes" as in "the appropriate space where political discussion is welcome" is bad but "fuck you and your community rules what I say goes and you must see political shit in a dog community or whatever because you cannot breathe for ten fucking minutes" is good.
Enjoy contributing to burnout and forcing people to use wordlist blockers to censor all of the content instead of them seeing some, hurting your own cause can be good if it makes you feel morally superior to everyone else, though.
You're constructed an excellent false dichotomy there, haven't you?
No u, you're the one who, on a conversation about not putting political things in rules-specified apolitical communities, decided to equate "talking about it in the appropriate place" to "echo chamber blah blah blah there must be no brief respite from my political posts even on communities that are specifically for other things despite there being mostly fucking political communities here." As if posting on lemmy comms that are unrelated actually does fuck all for anyone in an actual echo chamber that might need to hear it. Go tell Rumble ffs, or goddamn threads/bluesky even, lemmy is already the echo chamber that knows all the other posts on lemmy it isn't that big dude.
Your comment was a pain to read. Am I understanding you're mostly repeating yourself and ignoring my point about your false dichotomy?
Nobody here is saying we need to invade /c/cutepicsofpuppies with Donald Trump is Bad posts. You're saying "Get Politics off my Lemmy." I'm saying somewhere in the middle is best.