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Offer to join Trump’s new era is met with growing sense of European steeliness (www.theguardian.com)

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Talk of a stronger, independent Europe was the dominant mood in Munich amid bitter disagreement on Ukraine

If JD Vance’s thuggish speech to last year’s Munich Security Conference, directed at the solar plexus of Europe, marked the moment when a transatlantic breakup started, this weekend’s conference, in a rainy and cold Bavaria, was where the debate about the terms of the divorce settlement got under way.

Marco Rubio, the chosen Washington representative this year, is a diplomat, so he softened the Trumpian tone with references to German beer, the Beatles, Dante and the Mayflower. But his speech was a stern warning that if Europe wanted to continue on its path of civilisational decline, as this US administration sees it, America would not be interested and has different hemispheres on which to focus.

“Yesterday is over,” he said, and then he spelled out what yesterday meant. Mass migration threatening civilisational erasure and the continuity of Christian culture, unfettered trade, massive welfare states, weak defences, climate cults, the outsourcing of sovereignty to international institutions, the rationalisation of a broken status quo by people “shackled with guilt and shame”. Unlike Vance, he did not laud rightwing European populist parties, but he nonetheless wrapped himself in their ideology. His next stop after Munich was Budapest, where Viktor Orbán faces a battle in April to remain in power.

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[-] freebee@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

It's not just one dude anymore, system as a whole is shifting drastically, his death is in no way a guaranteed return towards normalcy in international politics. His death could usher in even more uncertainty.

[-] IronBird@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

it should be remembered that the "normalcy" many of those in power want to return is basically just "slightly less, but still unsustainable, ratfuckery for ratfuckerys sake", whereas republicans are crisis capitalists actively trying to crash the economy/markets so they can gobble up distressed assets and just generally make $ trading on insider-knowledge

[-] freebee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago

Of course there are many issues with the 'normalcy', but it was more predictable. For example not having to watch your back for your best, longest standing loyal ally to do the stupidest shit imaginable to your own country... I mainly meant it in the international politics, diplomacy sense.

[-] santa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Exactly. Especially on the judicial side. We are cooked for decades.

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