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What's going on with the lemmy world and ML infighting
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this post was submitted on 05 Feb 2026
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Long-standing political differences and an extremely censorious moderation philosophy on Lemmy.ml means there is always tension. I'm not aware of any specific thing that has happened recently though.
there was a big post yesterday about 'rent is theft' that had 100s of comments, that was mostly .world vs .ml users.
the .ml users basically harassed and threatened the .world users who were talking about reasonable reforms on housing prices and the causes for housing price inflation. .ml users think if you talk about facts and reality you are part of the problem and that reality should be re-made such that private property no longer exists and every single person should leave in the same concrete housing blocks like they had in the USSR, or they should be shot.
I mean, if they all want to move to Russia or North Korea or China, go right ahead, I am not stopping anyone from chasing their bliss. Perhaps I should note that they will end up as fodder for a warlord's lust for conquest, but at the end of the day that is not my call to make as to what to do with your lives.
But damnit I would like to have some tint amount of control about what to do with my own! Including the ability to block them, if I happen to want that. I almost left Lemmy over precisely this issue, preferring instead to simply read books offline than to have to wade through endless immature eternity of September crap. Fortunately, that's exactly when PieFed started coming up, offering an alternative besides Mbin, and which now offers a heck of a lot more features than either of them.
"you don't like it, leave"
you sound like pretty much every conservative I've interacted with.
Naa we're just tired of you tankies spewing authoritarian propaganda... you're just maga's that wear hammer and sickle patches.
I'm an anarchist, these days 'tankie' is just an epithet used by campist liberals towards 'disloyal' communists and anarchists at home.
There's a twisted irony that the so-called'tankies' are the ones most opposed to america sending in the tanks
No...no it's not. You tankies are called that because you eat propaganda from authoritarian regimes in the name of communism. You're just maga with a hammer and sickle logo
Pretty sure an anarchist is not thrilled with authoritarianism even if communist
Diva is a tankie, not an anarchist. They simp for russia and blame Ukraine for getting invaded. They just don't like being called a tankie anymore so they jumped to the anarchist label...kinda like maga does with libertarian.
I use she/her tyvm
These days ‘tankie’ is just an epithet used by ~~campist liberals~~ blue MAGA towards ‘disloyal’ communists and anarchists at home.
Literally a straw person you've made up and are attacking.
I evaluate all propaganda critically, be it from the authoritarian regime i live in (the US), or some other one
Tbh the closest thing to behaving like MAGA is you, more of a blue MAGA
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/23064271/13346496
Lol no you do not. You drink the propaganda. Stop acting like you're not a tankie. You shill for Putin and russia and china... there's a thread where you got banned for blaming Ukraine for being invaded lol
You just don't like being called a tankie, so you jumped to the anarchist label... kinda like maga chodes do with libertarian...
Calling me blue maga is hilarious though, another tankie term, which is more bullshit. Trolls like you helped get the turnip regime installed, and more of Palestine destroyed.
That link doesn't work for me.
Sweaty I've been an anarchist for decades at this point, I'm an anarchist because that's my values and that's how I organize IRL. Just because some turbo-liberals and crypto-fascists online don't like my opinions doesn't change that.
"Islam knows no peace", you sound more like the latter:
here's what I said:
I stand by that, pughitler didn't like it though.
Lol you simp for russia who invaded Ukraine and you then have the gall to be like "it's Ukraines fault" and we shouldn't be worried about it while Gaza is getting destroyed...
You're a tankie, you have no clue what you really stand for because you don't know how the world works, how humans work. Just like every other tankie.
And you bringing up the fact that I said Islam knows no peace is what again? It currently is the most violent religion on the planet, just as tankies are the most brainwashed edgelords who live in western societies all nice and warm behind a keyboard. End of the day, while you think you'll be in some high level position running your utopia, mass executing people who resist, you'll be the ones digging holes, because you're only smart enough to eat the propaganda and push out insane ideas... you're useless past that to the CCP/russia/NK.
me:
you:
You seem incapable of engaging with anything I actually say or do, preferring to make up shit I haven't said or done to attack instead.
Are you having trouble reading what I'm saying or are you not bothering? Either way not beating the blue maga allegations.
You are describing yourself, are you trapped in a hall of mirrors? Do you need help?
Because you don't say anything other than tankie talking points defending russia and the CCP...and then say you're an anarchist lol you're a tankie.
These days ‘tankie’ is just an epithet used by ~~campist liberals~~ blue MAGA towards ‘disloyal’ communists and anarchists at home.
I'm not sure if there's anything new, just seems to be the standard liberal/leftist beef.
Is that really how you view this? I don't want to start a big argument but I don't find that summary accurate at all.
Yes, generally. I can be more specific and say "western progressive/Marxist" beef, ie beef between western progressives and Marxists, but that beef is also just generally the liberal/leftist beef.
I'm not really looking for a fight, either, nor an argument. I generally value productive dialogue, but often that gets shut down by people that don't want that, so it spirals into arguments. See this "exchange" as an example.
I know you are usually polite which I appreciate. But I gotta say it's not how I would frame it. More like MLs vs. the world. Plenty of leftists on the outside here.
I wish I could engage in debate on Lemmy.ml but the censorship makes it impossible. I used to learn things from you guys but now I just avoid all those spaces because it's impossible to have a real conversation if you don't 100% agree with Dessalines on every single issue. I don't understand how anyone finds that tolerable.
the vast majority of the time I look into the supposed censorship on .ml it's someone being bigoted or insulting the person they're responding to
Yeah because mods there consider any criticism of your ideas or allied governments "bigotry". It's absurd. I can only assume from this comment that you share this view.
It's the exact same logic zionists use to shield Israel from criticism.
In my experience, the ones that get truly censored are the ones that either are insistent on repeating outright misinformation, or genuinely break the rules via ableism, racism, homophobia, etc. I speak with plenty of people that disagree with me on Lemmy.ml, and they usually only get temp-banned if they do one of those things. Permabanning is more for repeat offenses.
As for it being MLs vs. the world, that really isn't my experience either. I organize in real life with people that don't align with me 100% all the time, and when I'm on Hexbear I obviously get along with Maoists, anarchists, etc. as well. The source of major beef between lemmy.world specifically and Lemmy.ml specifically is as I said, western progressive liberal vs. Marxists, or even more generally liberal vs. leftist.
If there's something you're interested in discussing, I'm fine to do so, but I don't normally like engaging in spaces that defederate from Hex and Grad, ie apply a blanket firewall against the majority of Marxists on Lemmy. Discussion in non-Marxist spaces, where the majority of commenters are insulated from Marxists, usually results in the kind of slapfighting you see all over this thread over real conversation.
In spaces that actually allow strong Marxist participation, discussion around Marxism is more intricate, such as this conversation about the subject of "Dengism" I had with someone more critical of China over on Lemmygrad. This is just one example, but it isn't just a one-sided censorship campaign. I have been permabanned from Political Memes for pointing out the DNC's participation in the Palestinian genocide, and from every comm PugJesus moderates because they lost an argument in an unrelated comm. I'm banned from Memes of Production for "voting while tankie," because Deceptichum defended Hungarian Nazis for opposing the soviets. It's tiring.
All in all, I mean this to say that discussion goes both ways, and it isn't simply because Lemmy.ml unilaterally censors.