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Ethnic Minorities and People of Color
Official Title of this Community: Ethnic Minorities and People of Color
Why is the title different?
We like to have fun here.
What is this place? A safe space for underrepresented peoples and peoples of color to talk, chill, and vibe.
What are the basic rules of the community?
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Follow Lemmy TOS and Community Guidelines. Non negotiable. This is the bedrock and mods will make decisions with this always in mind.
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This community is for ethnic minorities and people of color. This is a safe space where such people can freely discuss their struggles, insight, and thoughts without fear. If you are not, we respectfully ask you do not post or comment here. A future community will be established to allow for racial discussions with a mixed userbase. However, remember, comments here must still respect Lemmy TOS and Community Guidelines.
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Irony Racism is still racism. Racism is bad m'kay? We will treat irony racism and bad faith racist satire as racism. Will wield the ban hammer accordingly.
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No sectarianism: This is an identity channel not a channel for you all to complain about why XYZ isn't the "one true leftism". Take that to another place.
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Stupidpol is not allowed. Stupidpol is class reductionist. We are an identity community. Thinking like stupidpol ignores the struggles of the oppressed, their voices, and their need for unique support. Nothing says oppression more than someone saying that the identity you have is "not real" and that if you only thought like them you'd see what your "real" identity is. Mods reserve the right to ban users and content who promote stupidpol, stupidpol memes, and other class reductionist thinking.
FAQ
I don't look XYZ and/or sometimes I can pass as white so I don't know if I can post here. Can I?
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This place is for ethnic minorities and people of color. This includes those of mixed heritage and those who may be "white" but are of an ethnicity that is a minority in their area (i.e. Kurds, etc) If you've experienced oppression due to your identity that is not based on sexual / gender identification, you are welcome here.
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Moreover, for our American audience, we have people from around the world who are "white" but are oppressed due to being a minority in their country. They are and should be welcomed here.
What can I post?
- Anything you think is relevant to the mission of this community. Things will evolve over time.
- Topics and things relevant to EM and POC.
Suggested Posts
- [People of Spice]: Food recipes so others can taste your culture
- [Theory]: Vid/podcasts/websites discussing issues relevant to identity, anti-imperialism, etc
- [News]: Vids/podcasts/websites that talk about current events relevant to EM and POC
Why do women wear burkas? Why hijabs? Are burkas a type of hijab? Idk where to read correct information on the topic.
Edit: Found cool facts:
the paragraph before the section you quoted:
as happens in many places with many faiths religion is used as a tool by the ruling class to enforce patriarchy
What cultural traditions create what opressive practices against Muslim women? Where are they commonly practiced?
I just discovered the term Islamphobia, and that Britain still wants to ban burqas. But I think there's more to the opression of Muslim women than Islamphobia.
Many european countries want to or have already banned burkas, usually citing "security reasons" but sometimes outright saying it's against muslims. Some even go for the hijab too.
So it's misogynist because this is banning of womens' wear correct? Is that the ruling class's enforcement of patriarchy you're talking about?
Or were you thinking of other forms of the ruling class enforcing patriarchy on Muslim women?
I was also intially wondering if you're talking about toxic forms of Islam. (Idk how similar this comparison is, but like how Christianity can be used toxically.)
It's both misogynistic as it does in a way control what women are allowed (or not allowed in this case) to wear but in the cases so far it's mostly islamophobic since the reasons cited are "against european values" or "dangerous", it specifically targets the muslim community, namely it's women, who are in a way forced to either go against their religion or step away from several public spaces. There are several examples of the ruling class enforcing patriarchy as capitalism benefits greatly from women's oppression but in the case of hijab/burka bans imo it is more of islamophobia since if it were another religious group like christians (like the catholic nuns) they don't have an issue with them being practically covered up head to toe (yeah I'm aware not all christian women are nuns and wear that outfit but most muslim women don't wear burkas let alone in western countries yet they still make laws targeting them). None of them seem to complain about the christian women who veil in public like they do for muslim women and hijab either.
Toxic forms of islam I don't have as much knowledge about so I cannot speak much on it but forcing women, muslim or not, to wear a hijab or burka is wrong as well and that is an issue in many places but it's not what the EU countries who ban them are aiming for by also forcing women not to wear them, in the end all religion can and is used to control the people by the ruling class and promote anti-communism, it depends on who's hands it falls and how each person interprets it but I myself do not like organized religion in general tbh or at all being honest even if I don't consider myself an athiest either.
You've shifted my perspective by mentioning this about nuns. I've been so used to seeing nuns in American media since I was little that I never noticed how they are just as covered as women who wear a hijab. Seeing Muslim wear still always feels like a brand new experience. I've really enjoyed seeing it in person recently and it was so wonderful to see this woman's beautiful outfit.
I posted this following quote(in the picture) once by a woman(different person than the fashionable woman) who was removed from speaking at a writer's event for being Palestinian, and it's fitting for the topic of banned Muslim wear:
Yeah, it's racism all around and I'm glad I was able to help you see another pov on this topic, the nun comparison is something that also made it click for me and it really puts into perspective it's not about women's rights as it is about islamophobia. France is the most obvious example I've seen where not just burka but hijabs have been banned with muslim women not being able to even compete in the olympics due to wearing a hijab and muslim girls being forced to take them off in schools. it's a ban on all public spaces.
Not surprised another western event banned a palestinian from attending. Pretty sure they didn't ban ukrainians tho.
I remember a post on here from an Iranian anarchist who said the complete opposite and then ranted about “Western-leftists” blindly defending Islam.
Anarchists and not being able to whine about “Western-Leftists” for a single day challenge.
I'd have to have more context to know in what way they were claiming it's blind to support Islam when they said that. We all have flaws in our belief systems so this could go either way.
I don't get it because I haven't heard much political talk from anarchists. At least not to my knowledge. Isn't that the norm since we westernized people are bound to have imperialist brainworms? It is what it is.