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I think the main reason you've been encountering suspicion or hostility is that a lot of people associate your gender with an old transphobic meme ("I identify as an attack helicopter"), and so they suspect you of being a right wing troll. I'll admit I wasn't sure myself because you used some unfamiliar terms like dronegender and swarmgender, and I didn't find anything about them by googling, but once you used more familiar terms like plurality and otherkin, I was more inclined to think you were genuine. Unfortunately, I think you're likely to encounter that kind of suspicion in many trans-friendly spaces, until you explain or demonstrate knowledge of something a troll probably wouldn't know about or understand, such as plurality. We also haven't had a lot of otherkin or systems here before, and when people encounter something like you that's outside of their experience, they try to fit it into something they're more familiar with.
My advice would be to spend some time hanging out in the general or queer megathreads, which are generally more chill. I think the more people get used to you and see that you're interested in being a part of the community, the more people will see you as acting in good faith. Also, if you ever get too frustrated with Hexbear, it's a good idea to get some space for a while. Usually when that happens with me, it gives me some perspective and reminds me what I like about this space.
Anyway I'm sorry you got that reception and I hope you don't hold it against us.
That's strange because I'm used to being attacked for being plural and otherkin too. I mean, reactionaries have been making fun of otherkin since 2010 with that helicopter copypasta. And pluralphobia is just rampant all over the place. Barely anybody's heard of narcissistic plurality before, despite how common it is. I thought I'd be opening myself up to more hate when I talked about those things. That's how it usually goes
Well like I said we haven't had very many systems or otherkin, so some people might not understand, but like we have it/its pronouns for a reason, because it's a valid way to identify. Generally questioning someone's gender identity is strictly against the rules, and the reason that an exception was made in your case was because people confused you with a troll. You probably don't have much faith in our mods after they removed some of your comments, but I can promise it was an honest mistake, and I believe that if anyone tries to give you shit for it again, they'll remove it. They said here
As for plurality, I remember a system actually did an AMA a couple years ago when the site was pretty new, some things have changed and I think some people are more aware of it now, but it might help get an impression of what kind of responses you might encounter.
Oh that's awesome, thanks for telling me
weirdly, plurality and otherkin have explained their experience on this site at length in the past so it's a easier to understand model for many of us.
But plurality and otherkin aren't my gender. There's a lot of intersectionality but it's its own thing too. I thought nonbinary gender was more accepted than otherkin
abstractly, yes but the specifics confuse cis people I think
Yeah, it's always "I support nonbinary people" until they hear what any nonbinary gender actually is. Then straight back to transphobia, do not pass go, do not collect 200$
I think I would have been treated just the same if I were cactusgender, diamondgender, or spacegender.
you're probably right. hopefully it's better now.