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[–] 99 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (16 children)

After Bovino threw the can, the Star-Tribune wrote, “plumes of green and gray smoke burst over the crowd,” causing protesters and observers to flee the scene.

That is probably not normal tear gas (which is bad enough), it's likely HC smoke which is extremely carcinogenic (arc).

If there is any justice for any of this someday there's going to be a massive settlement and taxpayers are going to be paying for cancer and hospice treatment for thousands of people affected by this in a couple of decades.

e; There was a good step by step guide for disarming these somewhere that I can't find right now, but if memory serves it was 1. Approach with leaf blower to direct smoke away from you, 2. Drop a traffic cone over the grenade to contain its smoke a bit more, 3. Dump a mixture of water and baking soda into the cone and drown the grenade.

e2; We don't have definitive information that this is what it looks like for sure yet, so I added the two italicized words.

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  • [–] 67 points 7 months ago* (4 children)

    Or..

    1. approach with leaf blower in one hand and lacrosse staff in the other.
    2. Return to sender

    Edit: In Minnesota, lacrosse staff may be substituted with a hockey stick.

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  • [–] 32 points 7 months ago

    Hexachloroethane is suspected of causing cancer and may cause organ damage through prolonged or repeated exposure

    Sounds like they're also shooting themselves in the foot with this one, especially since they don't wear proper protection, from what I've seen

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    If there is any justice

    these fucknuts will be spending life getting beaten in an El Salvadoran prison.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    an El Salvadoran prison.

    I appreciate the sentiment, but we've done enough to that country already, and it's not like this one lacks for prison cells

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Are you maybe confusing El Salvador with Venezuela? I'm specifically talking about CECOT.

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago

    No, I just don't think we should be dumping our prisoners on any other countries, Venezuela or El Salvador or anywhere else

    That said, in terms of bad stuff we've done to El Salvador specifically, we have propped up super brutal right wing governments there for decades specifically because it's the northern most South American country and DC wants them to be a choke point where every wouldbe migrant from the area can get kidnapped and brutalized far enough away from the US that our journalists won't ever notice. Like, CECOT never would have been built without US security aid.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I would be wary of identifying any chemical just by a loose description of its appearance like that.

    Deploying tear gas on peaceful protestors is disgusting even if it's not toxic. It's no different than tasing someone for no good reason, or choking them briefly for no good reason.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, fair, I definitely would be interested in more information about this if anyone has it, but the description fits, it seems like the exact sort of dick move this administration would pull, and its probably going to be impossible to get any more information soon besides just the loose descriptions we have, so I'd say it's more likely than not that this is HC smoke until more information becomes available.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    It is a precedent they want to set. That is the point of all of this ICE stuff, setting precedents on this issue because it's the one they have the most support on.

    They are setting them on this, for use in the next presidential election. And otherwise to crush protests.

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