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China wins in a defensive war as its military is designed from top to bottom to counter the US military and it would have logistics advantage as well, not to mention China has the stronger productive capacity and also the organisational capacity to adapt faster.
Neither side wins if China were the offensive side, but it never will be as they don't operate that way. The only discussion that can be had about a war with China and the US is one where China is defender. The US losing is quite obvious.
You are quite correct that the nukes make the whole debate largely pointless because the "winner" will still be a nuclear ruin.
The US military always claims it is outgunned to gin up more spending. In the cold war they sponsored campaigns to make everyone think the soviets were farther advanced than they were to ramp up funding, and it's the same with China here.
It's never about the stated military objectives in the US, it's about money. That is the only motivating factor, from afghanistan to iraq they didn't care to adopt a winning strategy that would build a prosperous society that would be the base of a government, too mean spirited and greedy and short sighted, they only cared about milking the government for money.
But year on the shores of china yeah they could fend off any invasion. The US navy could be vulnerable to massed missile volleys and the like, drones, to overwhelm missile defenses. Away from coastal batteries however China is outgunned. But luckily we should never find out because the destructive power of war has reached extinction level and that has as of yet prevented out bad leaders from starting a world war 3 directly with developed countries.
outgunned how?
They are not they have more weaponey than anyone, they claim they are outgunned to get more military funding.
oh i see, i didn't read that correctly. But if an exchange came to nuclear missiles China could fuck the US up just as well
Yeah thankfully the nukes and other wmd's have prevented war between advanced powers. We would be going on ww5 now if that check never came into being.