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Hexbear, various lemmy libs want to know, do you unironically support Trump? Sorry for the tedious question and thanks if you bother to answer it lol. If you do respond please be kinda serious. (lemmy.ml)
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no need to write an essay or anything

some libs and baby leftists are kinda baffled by the trump banter here and don't know what's serious and what's irony

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[–] 270 points 3 years ago (12 children)

I would say 100% of Hexbear posters believe Trump should be immediately summarily executed. In the mean time, though, he's a great comedic subject.

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  • [–] 140 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    no more half measures walter

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  • [–] 53 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I haven’t even seen the show, and I’ve maybe heard the audio one time, but I see your comments so often that “no more half measures Walter” in a deep gravelly voice is now a common thing in my internal monologue lmao

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  • [–] 23 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I didn't like the joke at first because I never saw the show. But after a week or two something changed now it makes me laugh really hard like half the time.

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  • [–] 70 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    \ stalin-gun-1 stalin-gun-2

    trump-drenched

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  • [–] 51 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    you have to escape the leading spaces with "\ " in order to make them render properly

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  • [–] 42 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    walter-shock SINCE WHEN

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  • [–] 48 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I disagree, I think we should give him the Puyi treatment for no other reason than it would be really funny

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  • [–] 42 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    At the absolute least he should be truman show'd

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  • [–] 43 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    We'll put him in a large terrarium where he's told he's still president as he is subjected to more and more bizare staged scenarios just to see what he'll do. Like one day we just replace his entire staff with people who look similar. One day we just let fifty dogs in to the white house. We tell him he has to open. Diplomatic channels with the deep ones who have emerged from the pacific. Just to see what he does. The man only watches one tv channel it wouldn't be hard to control his entire subjective experience.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Have a series of ports hidden throughout the office so we can poke him with a stick every so often.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 years ago

    I am 100% puyipilled because reforming arch-capitalists and political types into good communists is infinitely crueler than granting them the sweet release of death with their beliefs and ideals intact.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    It's like, if the goal is the collapse of America, he's probably the best bet yeah? If shit collapses he'll probably get executed anyway by his own base of psychopaths.

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  • [–] 32 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    if the goal is the collapse of America, he's probably the best bet yeah?

    This assumes that fascism isn't effective as capitalism's immune response, but I'd argue it is.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 years ago

    Yeah, but the competentish fascist we were afraid of turned out to be Robinette Brandon. Covid ended, wars accelerated, he's doing that faux-populism thing, new levels of state persecution of minorities, elections looking less legitimate than ever, jingoistic nationalism.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Its not. It only heigthens the contradictions. Take it from someone who was born in a corporatist state. That type of regime is extreamly fragile.

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  • [+] 14 points 3 years ago (1 child)
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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    We just gotta sacrifice our internal minorities!

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    They are getting sacrificed either way. This is America. Lame duck biden will do anything to protect them?

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    The insistence that Republicans and Democrats are literally exactly the same is incredibly myopic, obviously disprovable, and therefore just ruins the ability for the left to recruit amongst the most marginalized people in society because they see you saying "the group that actively wants to genocide you is the same to me as the one that doesn't". You could very easily use the actually correct rhetorical and political argument that the Democrats are incapable and disinterested in protecting marginalized people, but obscuring the difference between that disinterest and the most reactionary segments of society serves the nihilistic needs of pseudo-reactionary accelerationists. Why should I be surprised given you are literally advocating for a fascist in this thread.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    No, the DNC is worse. They more efficient at blocking leftward movement. The GOP is evil. But destroying the DNC is a requisite for progress. I am not advocating anything. I am posting. This is all meaningless. Are you afraid I am going to start some red brown alliance here? All the tankies will rise us as a unit to swing electoral numbers? If we had the power to do anything that wouldn't be it.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    No, the DNC is worse. They more efficient at blocking leftward movement. The GOP is evil.

    And the GOP constantly aggressively moves everything to the right. Or does that not count? Does the dissolution of public schools, women's rights, and queer rights not matter to you? DNC sits in the passenger seat, but the GOP is driving.

    And you are discussing politics on a political forum so fuck off with "oh you can't hold me accountable for anything I say when I think the US should elect a fascist". You expressed an opinion and your opinion is that of your average Republican.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    The gop is evil of course. However the DNC is a fundamental part of facilitating the GOPs evil. They make sure no effective forces can be marshaled to stop or undo the GOP. In your analogy the GOP is at the wheel and thr DNC is at the pedals. Because this is America they are driving to get a burger. If the gop is going to get into an collision than the DNC is obligated to press the breaks are they not? If the do not press they breaks when they could thrn they are enabling the behavior

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Yes; in what way does that make the GOPa preferable alternative? You are the one that said in this thread people should vote for Trump. I'm not advocating for the Dems; I'm asking you to defend your pro-Republican position.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I am not. Trump had unique qualities that made him an instructive choice. I don't think in a seccond term he would likely even have them any more. I still gotta appreciate thr moment for what it had been. The DNC being the thr thing that needs to be broken to stop thr GOP is a separate issue

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I wouldn't she'd a tear if Trump tripped and broke his neck, or if he finally got devoured by his son Bannon or someone Merced him, but if I am to answer who I think would lead to the best situation globally between Trump and Biden, I'd pick trump any day. The man is incredibly incompetent and isolationist. Couldn't even coup Venezuela.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It's so outrageously non-materialist to think the US's grip in Latin America is weakening because of Trump, and not because of the line decline of empire, China as a countervailing force, and the resilience of the Latin American people putting to use the lessons learned from prior US meddling. Biden also hasn't done much of anything in LA because the the US generally is no longer capable of it. The president isn't planning this shit personally. They aren't even deciding to do it or not. The only choices they get to make are erratic single strikes. Like Trump killing Soleimani and nearly starting war with Iran. No biggie, though, right? Orange man funny!

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I don't think that South America is seeing leftism bloom because of Trump, I think they're seeing it because of the work of south Americans. I think the south Americans work was easier under Trump - As you yourself said "the decline of Empire". He was much worse at administering the American empire, which accelerated it's collapse.

    Trump killing Soleimani was wrong and I don't think I've at any point said anything to the contrary? It was also something that wasn't widely supported, which fucked up soft power further. The war didn't escalate because of Iran, and Iran was able to keep tensions low because Trump was an incompetent buffoon incapable of whipping the rest of the west and the media in line.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    "the decline of Empire". He was much worse at administering the American empire, which accelerated it's collapse.

    How on earth you think the president meaningfully administers the empire, I have no idea. The empire is collapsing because of long historical trends and the inefficiency of its structures. Not because of Trump.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    Again I don't think it declines because of a single person. I do however think that the executive person has a lot of influence on how the us manages. There is a reason so many staffers were freaking out because key positions were unmanned more than a year after Trumps inauguration. They were freaking out because he did not follow security briefings, because he mishandled diplomatic engagements and because his cabinet was constantly shuffling. Pretending like these thing were inconsequential seems "ubmaterialistic" to me.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago*

    I think a lot of the confusion comes from how people here derive amusement from his stupidity, whereas with Biden and Obama the contempt was more open (because they weren't clownishly, openly stupid, just malicious or more run of the mill incompetent)

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    To anyone in future linking this comment or thread as evidence that we are not trump-anguish supporters, also note that this here is the second highest up-beared comment on the site.

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