▲ 192 ▼ Hexbear, various lemmy libs want to know, do you unironically support Trump? Sorry for the tedious question and thanks if you bother to answer it lol. If you do respond please be kinda serious. (lemmy.ml) submitted 3 years ago* by mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml to c/politics@hexbear.net 462 comments fedilink hide all child comments no need to write an essay or anything some libs and baby leftists are kinda baffled by the trump banter here and don't know what's serious and what's irony
[+] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 14 points 3 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jack@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) We just gotta sacrifice our internal minorities! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) They are getting sacrificed either way. This is America. Lame duck biden will do anything to protect them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jack@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) The insistence that Republicans and Democrats are literally exactly the same is incredibly myopic, obviously disprovable, and therefore just ruins the ability for the left to recruit amongst the most marginalized people in society because they see you saying "the group that actively wants to genocide you is the same to me as the one that doesn't". You could very easily use the actually correct rhetorical and political argument that the Democrats are incapable and disinterested in protecting marginalized people, but obscuring the difference between that disinterest and the most reactionary segments of society serves the nihilistic needs of pseudo-reactionary accelerationists. Why should I be surprised given you are literally advocating for a fascist in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) No, the DNC is worse. They more efficient at blocking leftward movement. The GOP is evil. But destroying the DNC is a requisite for progress. I am not advocating anything. I am posting. This is all meaningless. Are you afraid I am going to start some red brown alliance here? All the tankies will rise us as a unit to swing electoral numbers? If we had the power to do anything that wouldn't be it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jack@hexbear.net 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, the DNC is worse. They more efficient at blocking leftward movement. The GOP is evil. And the GOP constantly aggressively moves everything to the right. Or does that not count? Does the dissolution of public schools, women's rights, and queer rights not matter to you? DNC sits in the passenger seat, but the GOP is driving. And you are discussing politics on a political forum so fuck off with "oh you can't hold me accountable for anything I say when I think the US should elect a fascist". You expressed an opinion and your opinion is that of your average Republican. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The gop is evil of course. However the DNC is a fundamental part of facilitating the GOPs evil. They make sure no effective forces can be marshaled to stop or undo the GOP. In your analogy the GOP is at the wheel and thr DNC is at the pedals. Because this is America they are driving to get a burger. If the gop is going to get into an collision than the DNC is obligated to press the breaks are they not? If the do not press they breaks when they could thrn they are enabling the behavior permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jack@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Yes; in what way does that make the GOPa preferable alternative? You are the one that said in this thread people should vote for Trump. I'm not advocating for the Dems; I'm asking you to defend your pro-Republican position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago I am not. Trump had unique qualities that made him an instructive choice. I don't think in a seccond term he would likely even have them any more. I still gotta appreciate thr moment for what it had been. The DNC being the thr thing that needs to be broken to stop thr GOP is a separate issue permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jack@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) We just gotta sacrifice our internal minorities! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) They are getting sacrificed either way. This is America. Lame duck biden will do anything to protect them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jack@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) The insistence that Republicans and Democrats are literally exactly the same is incredibly myopic, obviously disprovable, and therefore just ruins the ability for the left to recruit amongst the most marginalized people in society because they see you saying "the group that actively wants to genocide you is the same to me as the one that doesn't". You could very easily use the actually correct rhetorical and political argument that the Democrats are incapable and disinterested in protecting marginalized people, but obscuring the difference between that disinterest and the most reactionary segments of society serves the nihilistic needs of pseudo-reactionary accelerationists. Why should I be surprised given you are literally advocating for a fascist in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) No, the DNC is worse. They more efficient at blocking leftward movement. The GOP is evil. But destroying the DNC is a requisite for progress. I am not advocating anything. I am posting. This is all meaningless. Are you afraid I am going to start some red brown alliance here? All the tankies will rise us as a unit to swing electoral numbers? If we had the power to do anything that wouldn't be it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jack@hexbear.net 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, the DNC is worse. They more efficient at blocking leftward movement. The GOP is evil. And the GOP constantly aggressively moves everything to the right. Or does that not count? Does the dissolution of public schools, women's rights, and queer rights not matter to you? DNC sits in the passenger seat, but the GOP is driving. And you are discussing politics on a political forum so fuck off with "oh you can't hold me accountable for anything I say when I think the US should elect a fascist". You expressed an opinion and your opinion is that of your average Republican. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The gop is evil of course. However the DNC is a fundamental part of facilitating the GOPs evil. They make sure no effective forces can be marshaled to stop or undo the GOP. In your analogy the GOP is at the wheel and thr DNC is at the pedals. Because this is America they are driving to get a burger. If the gop is going to get into an collision than the DNC is obligated to press the breaks are they not? If the do not press they breaks when they could thrn they are enabling the behavior permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jack@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Yes; in what way does that make the GOPa preferable alternative? You are the one that said in this thread people should vote for Trump. I'm not advocating for the Dems; I'm asking you to defend your pro-Republican position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago I am not. Trump had unique qualities that made him an instructive choice. I don't think in a seccond term he would likely even have them any more. I still gotta appreciate thr moment for what it had been. The DNC being the thr thing that needs to be broken to stop thr GOP is a separate issue permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) They are getting sacrificed either way. This is America. Lame duck biden will do anything to protect them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jack@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) The insistence that Republicans and Democrats are literally exactly the same is incredibly myopic, obviously disprovable, and therefore just ruins the ability for the left to recruit amongst the most marginalized people in society because they see you saying "the group that actively wants to genocide you is the same to me as the one that doesn't". You could very easily use the actually correct rhetorical and political argument that the Democrats are incapable and disinterested in protecting marginalized people, but obscuring the difference between that disinterest and the most reactionary segments of society serves the nihilistic needs of pseudo-reactionary accelerationists. Why should I be surprised given you are literally advocating for a fascist in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) No, the DNC is worse. They more efficient at blocking leftward movement. The GOP is evil. But destroying the DNC is a requisite for progress. I am not advocating anything. I am posting. This is all meaningless. Are you afraid I am going to start some red brown alliance here? All the tankies will rise us as a unit to swing electoral numbers? If we had the power to do anything that wouldn't be it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jack@hexbear.net 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, the DNC is worse. They more efficient at blocking leftward movement. The GOP is evil. And the GOP constantly aggressively moves everything to the right. Or does that not count? Does the dissolution of public schools, women's rights, and queer rights not matter to you? DNC sits in the passenger seat, but the GOP is driving. And you are discussing politics on a political forum so fuck off with "oh you can't hold me accountable for anything I say when I think the US should elect a fascist". You expressed an opinion and your opinion is that of your average Republican. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The gop is evil of course. However the DNC is a fundamental part of facilitating the GOPs evil. They make sure no effective forces can be marshaled to stop or undo the GOP. In your analogy the GOP is at the wheel and thr DNC is at the pedals. Because this is America they are driving to get a burger. If the gop is going to get into an collision than the DNC is obligated to press the breaks are they not? If the do not press they breaks when they could thrn they are enabling the behavior permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jack@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Yes; in what way does that make the GOPa preferable alternative? You are the one that said in this thread people should vote for Trump. I'm not advocating for the Dems; I'm asking you to defend your pro-Republican position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago I am not. Trump had unique qualities that made him an instructive choice. I don't think in a seccond term he would likely even have them any more. I still gotta appreciate thr moment for what it had been. The DNC being the thr thing that needs to be broken to stop thr GOP is a separate issue permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jack@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) The insistence that Republicans and Democrats are literally exactly the same is incredibly myopic, obviously disprovable, and therefore just ruins the ability for the left to recruit amongst the most marginalized people in society because they see you saying "the group that actively wants to genocide you is the same to me as the one that doesn't". You could very easily use the actually correct rhetorical and political argument that the Democrats are incapable and disinterested in protecting marginalized people, but obscuring the difference between that disinterest and the most reactionary segments of society serves the nihilistic needs of pseudo-reactionary accelerationists. Why should I be surprised given you are literally advocating for a fascist in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) No, the DNC is worse. They more efficient at blocking leftward movement. The GOP is evil. But destroying the DNC is a requisite for progress. I am not advocating anything. I am posting. This is all meaningless. Are you afraid I am going to start some red brown alliance here? All the tankies will rise us as a unit to swing electoral numbers? If we had the power to do anything that wouldn't be it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jack@hexbear.net 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, the DNC is worse. They more efficient at blocking leftward movement. The GOP is evil. And the GOP constantly aggressively moves everything to the right. Or does that not count? Does the dissolution of public schools, women's rights, and queer rights not matter to you? DNC sits in the passenger seat, but the GOP is driving. And you are discussing politics on a political forum so fuck off with "oh you can't hold me accountable for anything I say when I think the US should elect a fascist". You expressed an opinion and your opinion is that of your average Republican. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The gop is evil of course. However the DNC is a fundamental part of facilitating the GOPs evil. They make sure no effective forces can be marshaled to stop or undo the GOP. In your analogy the GOP is at the wheel and thr DNC is at the pedals. Because this is America they are driving to get a burger. If the gop is going to get into an collision than the DNC is obligated to press the breaks are they not? If the do not press they breaks when they could thrn they are enabling the behavior permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jack@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Yes; in what way does that make the GOPa preferable alternative? You are the one that said in this thread people should vote for Trump. I'm not advocating for the Dems; I'm asking you to defend your pro-Republican position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago I am not. Trump had unique qualities that made him an instructive choice. I don't think in a seccond term he would likely even have them any more. I still gotta appreciate thr moment for what it had been. The DNC being the thr thing that needs to be broken to stop thr GOP is a separate issue permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) No, the DNC is worse. They more efficient at blocking leftward movement. The GOP is evil. But destroying the DNC is a requisite for progress. I am not advocating anything. I am posting. This is all meaningless. Are you afraid I am going to start some red brown alliance here? All the tankies will rise us as a unit to swing electoral numbers? If we had the power to do anything that wouldn't be it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jack@hexbear.net 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, the DNC is worse. They more efficient at blocking leftward movement. The GOP is evil. And the GOP constantly aggressively moves everything to the right. Or does that not count? Does the dissolution of public schools, women's rights, and queer rights not matter to you? DNC sits in the passenger seat, but the GOP is driving. And you are discussing politics on a political forum so fuck off with "oh you can't hold me accountable for anything I say when I think the US should elect a fascist". You expressed an opinion and your opinion is that of your average Republican. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The gop is evil of course. However the DNC is a fundamental part of facilitating the GOPs evil. They make sure no effective forces can be marshaled to stop or undo the GOP. In your analogy the GOP is at the wheel and thr DNC is at the pedals. Because this is America they are driving to get a burger. If the gop is going to get into an collision than the DNC is obligated to press the breaks are they not? If the do not press they breaks when they could thrn they are enabling the behavior permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jack@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Yes; in what way does that make the GOPa preferable alternative? You are the one that said in this thread people should vote for Trump. I'm not advocating for the Dems; I'm asking you to defend your pro-Republican position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago I am not. Trump had unique qualities that made him an instructive choice. I don't think in a seccond term he would likely even have them any more. I still gotta appreciate thr moment for what it had been. The DNC being the thr thing that needs to be broken to stop thr GOP is a separate issue permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jack@hexbear.net 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, the DNC is worse. They more efficient at blocking leftward movement. The GOP is evil. And the GOP constantly aggressively moves everything to the right. Or does that not count? Does the dissolution of public schools, women's rights, and queer rights not matter to you? DNC sits in the passenger seat, but the GOP is driving. And you are discussing politics on a political forum so fuck off with "oh you can't hold me accountable for anything I say when I think the US should elect a fascist". You expressed an opinion and your opinion is that of your average Republican. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The gop is evil of course. However the DNC is a fundamental part of facilitating the GOPs evil. They make sure no effective forces can be marshaled to stop or undo the GOP. In your analogy the GOP is at the wheel and thr DNC is at the pedals. Because this is America they are driving to get a burger. If the gop is going to get into an collision than the DNC is obligated to press the breaks are they not? If the do not press they breaks when they could thrn they are enabling the behavior permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jack@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Yes; in what way does that make the GOPa preferable alternative? You are the one that said in this thread people should vote for Trump. I'm not advocating for the Dems; I'm asking you to defend your pro-Republican position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago I am not. Trump had unique qualities that made him an instructive choice. I don't think in a seccond term he would likely even have them any more. I still gotta appreciate thr moment for what it had been. The DNC being the thr thing that needs to be broken to stop thr GOP is a separate issue permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The gop is evil of course. However the DNC is a fundamental part of facilitating the GOPs evil. They make sure no effective forces can be marshaled to stop or undo the GOP. In your analogy the GOP is at the wheel and thr DNC is at the pedals. Because this is America they are driving to get a burger. If the gop is going to get into an collision than the DNC is obligated to press the breaks are they not? If the do not press they breaks when they could thrn they are enabling the behavior permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jack@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Yes; in what way does that make the GOPa preferable alternative? You are the one that said in this thread people should vote for Trump. I'm not advocating for the Dems; I'm asking you to defend your pro-Republican position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago I am not. Trump had unique qualities that made him an instructive choice. I don't think in a seccond term he would likely even have them any more. I still gotta appreciate thr moment for what it had been. The DNC being the thr thing that needs to be broken to stop thr GOP is a separate issue permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jack@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Yes; in what way does that make the GOPa preferable alternative? You are the one that said in this thread people should vote for Trump. I'm not advocating for the Dems; I'm asking you to defend your pro-Republican position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago I am not. Trump had unique qualities that made him an instructive choice. I don't think in a seccond term he would likely even have them any more. I still gotta appreciate thr moment for what it had been. The DNC being the thr thing that needs to be broken to stop thr GOP is a separate issue permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago I am not. Trump had unique qualities that made him an instructive choice. I don't think in a seccond term he would likely even have them any more. I still gotta appreciate thr moment for what it had been. The DNC being the thr thing that needs to be broken to stop thr GOP is a separate issue permalink fedilink source parent