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G-Assist is ‘real’: NVIDIA unveils NitroGen, open-source AI model that can play 1000+ games for you (videocardz.com)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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Why would I want AI to play the game other than for testing?

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[–] 32 points 9 months ago (19 children)

Y'all laugh but there are way too many people into idle games, not to mention people who prefer watching a stream (even without commentary) over playing a game itself.

I cannot comprehend why, though, just like I can't comprehend how cheating (particularly single player) can be fun.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    how cheating (particularly single player) can be fun

    Have you never played a game with unreasonable grind that saps all the fun out of it ? Often just to drive player hours and 'engagement'. Multiplayer cheats however can die in a fire.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I suppose. When I'm referring to cheats, it's more in regards to invulnerability, infinite resources, etc., which seem to sap the point of having a game in the first place. Like making the fun parts into a grind, rather than the other way around.

    That said, I'll also say sometimes part of the challenge is the grind, so it depends. You have to pick your own poison, right?

    Like, take Silksong for example. You lose out on the full experience if you mod out the annoying run from bench to boss, it's like a 40 second annoyance built in punishment. But I get why you'd do that-- it's technically there for a reason but I get it. Hell, even the difficulty adjustment mods I can understand.

    But making the bosses die in one hit or making yourself invulnerable? Now you've lost me, that's like a core element of the game; you might as well just watch someone else play it because what's the point.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    When I was a child I used to ask my dad to input the invulnerability cheat in Doom. I was way too bad at movement, aiming and basically just everything, that I could have had fun otherwise. Likewise for Anno 1602, there I needed the money cheat because otherwise I'd just go bankrupt. I didn't understand the income balance yet but I still had fun building economy chains.

    I'm not sure I have a point here. Just remembered cheating as a child because I needed it. Probably haven't cheated in 18 years now.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    My dad entered in codes for me when I was really little, but that's kind of another thing entirely. I don't think little kids have an achievement oriented sorta version of play, so anything goes with them. Once you're older, that dopamine rush just hits differently, though.

    In education you could also consider it a form of scaffolding. Enabling someone to do something they normally can't do is a form of development, like giving handicaps in games and stuff can foster the skills to not need them eventually.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I mean it used to be the norm for games to have cheat codes built into them. Maybe you get stuck on one part and need help, maybe you have fun spawning a bunch of weapons and going on a rampage (see GTA), or maybe you just want to see what happens if you spawn a giant enemy in a small room.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    You never used cheat codes in GTA San Andreas and the like? It's a lot of fun

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I actually thought about that after my comment and summoning a tank from nowhere was fun. At least for a little bit... but maybe mostly for the novelty of it all. Also I was like, 12.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I mean it varies. It's fun to just goof off in games sometimes. That's why sandbox games like Minecraft typically have creative modes, sometimes you just wanna play in the sandbox and have a good time without the more typical game parts tying you down

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    I don't watch others playing games, either, but someone who likes those streams told me he didn't see a difference between watching good gamers play games and good football players play football.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I was laughing along until you said "watching a stream (even without commentary)". Yeah I've done that one. Sometimes I want to see what's next in the game without spending 100 hours to get there ><. Also watching lets me mentally unwind, playing takes a mental toll.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    I think we're all kinda beat down by life, so I don't really judge people on it. I just am not one of them, haha. (But I don't even watch TV or movies much so I'm admittedly a weirdo).

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I also don't watch TV or movies -- only Twitch streams. I've been this way even when not beaten down by capitalism and fascism though. Even when I'm taking a break from working on creative projects, it's still nice to be able to turn my brain off and get the experience of seeing the game. Maybe my unmedicated ADHD makes me that way.

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