▲ 496 ▼ Epic boss Tim Sweeney thinks stores like Steam should stop labelling games as being made with AI: 'It makes no sense,' he says, because 'AI will be involved in nearly all future production (share.google) submitted 9 months ago* by OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world 166 comments fedilink hide all child comments The glory days of Epic Games are long gone and Tim Sweeney is a god damn moron.
[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 79 points 9 months ago (3 children) Valve banned shitcoins and blockchain scams would've been nice if they banned gambling, too, but that's part of their business model unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 19 points 9 months ago (6 children) I hear people say this sometimes, but I don't know what they mean. Is there part of Valve's system that has a gambling mechanic I've just never engaged with? Or is it one of their games that has gambling? Because I've been using it for years as basically my sole gaming interface and haven't seen any gambling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 47 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child) The short version is that an enormous, multibillion dollar gambling industry has been built around Valve's item marketplace, and in particular around CS:GO skins. If that sounds completely insane and stupid, I'm with you, but it exists. Valve takes their typical cut off of all of these trades, and thus derives massive profits from it. Here's the long version: https://peertube.gravitywell.xyz/videos/watch/a8e6d20c-3003-4b14-b9c4-cb6a25b238e7?isPeertubeContent=1 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago Huh. I didn't know this was a feature Steam had. Weird! permalink fedilink source parent [–] technohacker@programming.dev 16 points 9 months ago Mainly Team Fortress 2 and Counter Strike GO/2, cuz both of them have cosmetics with rarities obtained via what effectively amounts to lootboxes. In one sense they also have an out-of-game economy around these things where these items are traded for actual money permalink fedilink source parent [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago There is a massive secondary market for in-game items (primarily CS skins) that Valve refuses to combat or even officially acknowledge. Some of it is legitimate, some of it is literal lottery for children. And since every transaction takes place on Steam, they get a cut of that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] missingno@fedia.io 6 points 9 months ago TF2 was the original gacha game. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago Loot boxes in Counter-Strike permalink fedilink source parent [–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 9 months ago* All their big multiplayer games have lootboxes and stuff like that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bdonvr 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) At least the shit is all cosmetic not like EA sports games with their UT packs I guess. Low bar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (1 child) It might be cosmetic, but it can be sold, which fuels the addiction mechanic. EA is bad, too, but this whataboutism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 child) The launcher?! This bloatware is the second worst thing about Valve's services right after the gamble mechanics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) I don't want to discredit Steam's features like compatibility layers, but the software itself is a mess. It is an unnessecary RAM-heavy chromium instance, to be fair, just like most other launchers. I replaced it with Playnite which is streamlined, responsive and more feature rich for managing a library (Steam still needs to be installed of course because they don't offer offline installer like GOG). And I'd argue that console user saren't free of launcher, they are locked into a very specific one. But as someone who's neither been to Costco nor Walmart, what is the difference? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago Sometimes if a game is available on GOG and Steam I choose Steam simply because I will play the game exclusively on the SteamDeck and there Steam's eco system and UX is obviously better. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago LordGabn has to buy Aston Martin's so how. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 19 points 9 months ago (6 children) I hear people say this sometimes, but I don't know what they mean. Is there part of Valve's system that has a gambling mechanic I've just never engaged with? Or is it one of their games that has gambling? Because I've been using it for years as basically my sole gaming interface and haven't seen any gambling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 47 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child) The short version is that an enormous, multibillion dollar gambling industry has been built around Valve's item marketplace, and in particular around CS:GO skins. If that sounds completely insane and stupid, I'm with you, but it exists. Valve takes their typical cut off of all of these trades, and thus derives massive profits from it. Here's the long version: https://peertube.gravitywell.xyz/videos/watch/a8e6d20c-3003-4b14-b9c4-cb6a25b238e7?isPeertubeContent=1 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago Huh. I didn't know this was a feature Steam had. Weird! permalink fedilink source parent [–] technohacker@programming.dev 16 points 9 months ago Mainly Team Fortress 2 and Counter Strike GO/2, cuz both of them have cosmetics with rarities obtained via what effectively amounts to lootboxes. In one sense they also have an out-of-game economy around these things where these items are traded for actual money permalink fedilink source parent [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago There is a massive secondary market for in-game items (primarily CS skins) that Valve refuses to combat or even officially acknowledge. Some of it is legitimate, some of it is literal lottery for children. And since every transaction takes place on Steam, they get a cut of that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] missingno@fedia.io 6 points 9 months ago TF2 was the original gacha game. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago Loot boxes in Counter-Strike permalink fedilink source parent [–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 9 months ago* All their big multiplayer games have lootboxes and stuff like that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 47 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child) The short version is that an enormous, multibillion dollar gambling industry has been built around Valve's item marketplace, and in particular around CS:GO skins. If that sounds completely insane and stupid, I'm with you, but it exists. Valve takes their typical cut off of all of these trades, and thus derives massive profits from it. Here's the long version: https://peertube.gravitywell.xyz/videos/watch/a8e6d20c-3003-4b14-b9c4-cb6a25b238e7?isPeertubeContent=1 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago Huh. I didn't know this was a feature Steam had. Weird! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago Huh. I didn't know this was a feature Steam had. Weird! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] technohacker@programming.dev 16 points 9 months ago Mainly Team Fortress 2 and Counter Strike GO/2, cuz both of them have cosmetics with rarities obtained via what effectively amounts to lootboxes. In one sense they also have an out-of-game economy around these things where these items are traded for actual money permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago There is a massive secondary market for in-game items (primarily CS skins) that Valve refuses to combat or even officially acknowledge. Some of it is legitimate, some of it is literal lottery for children. And since every transaction takes place on Steam, they get a cut of that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] missingno@fedia.io 6 points 9 months ago TF2 was the original gacha game. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago Loot boxes in Counter-Strike permalink fedilink source parent
[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 9 months ago* All their big multiplayer games have lootboxes and stuff like that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bdonvr 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) At least the shit is all cosmetic not like EA sports games with their UT packs I guess. Low bar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (1 child) It might be cosmetic, but it can be sold, which fuels the addiction mechanic. EA is bad, too, but this whataboutism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 child) The launcher?! This bloatware is the second worst thing about Valve's services right after the gamble mechanics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) I don't want to discredit Steam's features like compatibility layers, but the software itself is a mess. It is an unnessecary RAM-heavy chromium instance, to be fair, just like most other launchers. I replaced it with Playnite which is streamlined, responsive and more feature rich for managing a library (Steam still needs to be installed of course because they don't offer offline installer like GOG). And I'd argue that console user saren't free of launcher, they are locked into a very specific one. But as someone who's neither been to Costco nor Walmart, what is the difference? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago Sometimes if a game is available on GOG and Steam I choose Steam simply because I will play the game exclusively on the SteamDeck and there Steam's eco system and UX is obviously better. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (1 child) It might be cosmetic, but it can be sold, which fuels the addiction mechanic. EA is bad, too, but this whataboutism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 child) The launcher?! This bloatware is the second worst thing about Valve's services right after the gamble mechanics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) I don't want to discredit Steam's features like compatibility layers, but the software itself is a mess. It is an unnessecary RAM-heavy chromium instance, to be fair, just like most other launchers. I replaced it with Playnite which is streamlined, responsive and more feature rich for managing a library (Steam still needs to be installed of course because they don't offer offline installer like GOG). And I'd argue that console user saren't free of launcher, they are locked into a very specific one. But as someone who's neither been to Costco nor Walmart, what is the difference? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago Sometimes if a game is available on GOG and Steam I choose Steam simply because I will play the game exclusively on the SteamDeck and there Steam's eco system and UX is obviously better. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 child) The launcher?! This bloatware is the second worst thing about Valve's services right after the gamble mechanics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) I don't want to discredit Steam's features like compatibility layers, but the software itself is a mess. It is an unnessecary RAM-heavy chromium instance, to be fair, just like most other launchers. I replaced it with Playnite which is streamlined, responsive and more feature rich for managing a library (Steam still needs to be installed of course because they don't offer offline installer like GOG). And I'd argue that console user saren't free of launcher, they are locked into a very specific one. But as someone who's neither been to Costco nor Walmart, what is the difference? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago Sometimes if a game is available on GOG and Steam I choose Steam simply because I will play the game exclusively on the SteamDeck and there Steam's eco system and UX is obviously better. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 child) The launcher?! This bloatware is the second worst thing about Valve's services right after the gamble mechanics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) I don't want to discredit Steam's features like compatibility layers, but the software itself is a mess. It is an unnessecary RAM-heavy chromium instance, to be fair, just like most other launchers. I replaced it with Playnite which is streamlined, responsive and more feature rich for managing a library (Steam still needs to be installed of course because they don't offer offline installer like GOG). And I'd argue that console user saren't free of launcher, they are locked into a very specific one. But as someone who's neither been to Costco nor Walmart, what is the difference? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago Sometimes if a game is available on GOG and Steam I choose Steam simply because I will play the game exclusively on the SteamDeck and there Steam's eco system and UX is obviously better. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) I don't want to discredit Steam's features like compatibility layers, but the software itself is a mess. It is an unnessecary RAM-heavy chromium instance, to be fair, just like most other launchers. I replaced it with Playnite which is streamlined, responsive and more feature rich for managing a library (Steam still needs to be installed of course because they don't offer offline installer like GOG). And I'd argue that console user saren't free of launcher, they are locked into a very specific one. But as someone who's neither been to Costco nor Walmart, what is the difference? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago Sometimes if a game is available on GOG and Steam I choose Steam simply because I will play the game exclusively on the SteamDeck and there Steam's eco system and UX is obviously better. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) I don't want to discredit Steam's features like compatibility layers, but the software itself is a mess. It is an unnessecary RAM-heavy chromium instance, to be fair, just like most other launchers. I replaced it with Playnite which is streamlined, responsive and more feature rich for managing a library (Steam still needs to be installed of course because they don't offer offline installer like GOG). And I'd argue that console user saren't free of launcher, they are locked into a very specific one. But as someone who's neither been to Costco nor Walmart, what is the difference? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago Sometimes if a game is available on GOG and Steam I choose Steam simply because I will play the game exclusively on the SteamDeck and there Steam's eco system and UX is obviously better. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago Sometimes if a game is available on GOG and Steam I choose Steam simply because I will play the game exclusively on the SteamDeck and there Steam's eco system and UX is obviously better. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago Sometimes if a game is available on GOG and Steam I choose Steam simply because I will play the game exclusively on the SteamDeck and there Steam's eco system and UX is obviously better. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago LordGabn has to buy Aston Martin's so how. permalink fedilink source parent