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Only a 1000 bucks? That’s just the cost of doing business to them.
Per infraction. That'll put a cost on violating traffic laws and incentivize them to fix their software in order to cut cost.
And if you can prove intent (they were aware of a dangerous bug but chose not to fix it), then ground the fleet until it's fixed and/or punish whoever's ultimately responsible, personally.
It would make sense to scale it to what one car makes the company, since you're fining them for a violation done by one car.
With your suggestion, it would be a lot easier and cheaper for the state to simply ban Waymo, since that would be the result.
No, keep it scaled to the company.
I'm tired of state leadership taking bribes from big businesses instead fines and taxes.
Too many have been taking the "easier and cheaper" route for too long, and that's a big part of why we're in the capitalist hellscape we're currently in.
Good thing you mention a 'fleet', as the aircraft industry is a great model of what self-driving cars could become.
fleet also refers to ships, and cars wierdly enough. i would call it an armada, if suddenly hundreds show up in one place.
Sure but if ”just the cost of doing business" becomes their official policy on this variety of traffic incident, they could end up paying $1000 a dozen times a day. That ads up pretty quickly.
Weigh that against how much it costs to develop, test, and deploy a fix. If you get fines like that 10 times every day, you could have spent all that money on developer wages and the problem would have been fixed in a month or two. If it’s only one ticket a month, it’s cheaper to leave it as it is.
Funny how most laws are incentivized to punish the poor, by setting static monetary fines that rich people and corporations would scoff at.
It’s just the system working exactly as intended. Poor masses remain subjugated by the rich, and history repeats itself.
If they are truly so much safer, one could say they have much higher standards for drive safety.
If they have a much higher standards then the times they do fail, it’s reasonable the fine should be multiplied a few times.
There are some current examples where commercial higher standards lead to bigger penalties.
Bar owners can be criminally charged for over serving alcohol to drunk clients. Citizen hosts don’t face that same legal responsibility.
Similar with Financial advisors vs your crypto uncle.
I was only fined once in my life for speeding (going 5km/h over the limit on a downhill), since I always respect the speed limit.
Would it make sense to multiply my fine by the average number of violations other people commit in their lives?
Then not what I said,
Neither do you as a private citizen qualify to be held to a higher standard like the real world examples I gave.