▲ 151 ▼ Hexbear’s entire point in federating was to fuck shit up. (lemmy.ca) submitted 3 years ago by AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net 255 comments fedilink hide all child comments New tagline just dropped.
[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 61 points 3 years ago (3 children) we are militantly against bigotry Except for Estonians. The exception that proves the rule. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 41 points 3 years ago* (3 children) I'm not sure quite what to think about the Baltics. Obviously fuck their governments, and the numerous institutions pushing Holocaust revisionism and denial and re-writing 20th century history. But blanket-condemning little countries like that, no matter how shitty their government is, feels different from blanket condemning the US or UK. They're under the NATO umbrella but despite being little pissant countries with fash governments they're not exerting hegemonic power and are at most expendable speed bumps for Imperialism. I can't imagine it's fun or say being a dissident in the Baltics. hell, I don't even think it's legal, is it? Yeah, looks like they've got some blanket laws they use to hunt down Communists and, probably, anyone they think is communist Idk, I gotta think about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 35 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) To be clear, my comment was a joke about the lemm.ee admin saying we think Estonians are subhuman earlier this week. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Thordros@hexbear.net 23 points 3 years ago (1 child) I still wanna know what was up with that. I honestly haven't had a single thought in my head about Estonia since I skipped a lecture to go see Encino Man in the 90's. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ElHexo@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 3 years ago Yeah. The idea of a country that's the size of a medium suburb having any role in global geopolitics is funny. Like yeah, guys, that's great that you're in NATO. By the way Dallas, Phoenix, and San Anton are all going to join too, and they're going to have more clout than you by a silly margin. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 8 points 3 years ago he clearly misread "italians" as "estonians" permalink fedilink source parent [–] StalinwasaGryffindor@hexbear.net 14 points 3 years ago (1 child) The weirdest thing about the baltics is how they love to act as rabid dogs for nato/US but in the event of an actual war between nato and russia the only purpose they serve is to give the ghouls in DC and the pentagon a couple extra minutes to get to the bunker permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 8 points 3 years ago I ran in to 1 (one) Baltic resident who was somehow convinced that their military would be a significant obstacle for Russia in the event of a war and I suspect that nationalism might have been involved in clouding their judgement. I honestly doubt NATO would even respond to a Russian invasion in the little fringe countries if they weren't already interested in a hot war. permalink fedilink source parent [+] satori@hexbear.net 9 points 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 35 points 3 years ago You have no idea the restraint it took for me not to post the "Estonians are slop-eating Hungarians" tweet at the lem.ee admin during that whole debacle permalink fedilink source parent [–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 32 points 3 years ago (2 children) I thought it was Latvians. Potato people is too vague I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 43 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Eh. The Baltics are very small countries with... what's the nice way to say this... Fascist collaborationist governments that have worked hard to control the narrative, erase the crimes of the 30s and 40s, and create a questionable view of 20th century history. It's like any other country - Shitheads, none shitheads, and regular people in between. The official government line and the views of many citizens are hard right-wing, holocaust denial, and support for Nazi collaborators. You're going to run in to a lot of fash and fash-adjacent assholes. Edited bc I realized I've been saying Balkans instead of Baltics all day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 37 points 3 years ago (2 children) I think you mean Baltic. Just gonna also throw out that a ton of the world's stateless people live in the Baltic countries because they denied ethnic minorities citizenship after the fall of the USSR unlike every other former Soviet country. IIRC Lithuania isn't involved in that at least, I think just Estonia and Latvia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 27 points 3 years ago (1 child) Wow. I'm pretty sure that's a capital C Crime Against Humanity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 24 points 3 years ago (1 child) I believe most countries have signed an agreement never to create a stateless person due to how vulnerable they are to abuse. That's a why, for example, the claims that Shamina Begum was a Bangladeshi citizen when they revoked her citizenship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 17 points 3 years ago (1 child) I remember that. That was really fucked. Political exiles in the democracy loving freedom of speech west? Hardly surprising but very against the marketing. I still don't entirely understand what their purpose is with that. Is it a way to reinforce anti-immigrant rhetoric in preparation for some kind of V for Vendetta more fascist Britain thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 13 points 3 years ago Forces the Kurds and/or Bangladesh to deal with a terrorist so the Queen doesn't have to pay the costs of imprisoning her permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoGodsNoMasters@hexbear.net 6 points 3 years ago* Yeah it's pretty bad. You could conceivably have had parents born in the country and been born in the country yourself and still be denied citizenship in 1991 because they refused to recognise anything Soviet permalink fedilink source parent [–] D61@hexbear.net 30 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, no no... its only Italians. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 18 points 3 years ago (1 child) Why you cutta momma's heart lika-a da pizza. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 13 points 3 years ago MAMMA MIA! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frank@hexbear.net 41 points 3 years ago* (3 children) I'm not sure quite what to think about the Baltics. Obviously fuck their governments, and the numerous institutions pushing Holocaust revisionism and denial and re-writing 20th century history. But blanket-condemning little countries like that, no matter how shitty their government is, feels different from blanket condemning the US or UK. They're under the NATO umbrella but despite being little pissant countries with fash governments they're not exerting hegemonic power and are at most expendable speed bumps for Imperialism. I can't imagine it's fun or say being a dissident in the Baltics. hell, I don't even think it's legal, is it? Yeah, looks like they've got some blanket laws they use to hunt down Communists and, probably, anyone they think is communist Idk, I gotta think about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 35 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) To be clear, my comment was a joke about the lemm.ee admin saying we think Estonians are subhuman earlier this week. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Thordros@hexbear.net 23 points 3 years ago (1 child) I still wanna know what was up with that. I honestly haven't had a single thought in my head about Estonia since I skipped a lecture to go see Encino Man in the 90's. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ElHexo@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 3 years ago Yeah. The idea of a country that's the size of a medium suburb having any role in global geopolitics is funny. Like yeah, guys, that's great that you're in NATO. By the way Dallas, Phoenix, and San Anton are all going to join too, and they're going to have more clout than you by a silly margin. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 8 points 3 years ago he clearly misread "italians" as "estonians" permalink fedilink source parent [–] StalinwasaGryffindor@hexbear.net 14 points 3 years ago (1 child) The weirdest thing about the baltics is how they love to act as rabid dogs for nato/US but in the event of an actual war between nato and russia the only purpose they serve is to give the ghouls in DC and the pentagon a couple extra minutes to get to the bunker permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 8 points 3 years ago I ran in to 1 (one) Baltic resident who was somehow convinced that their military would be a significant obstacle for Russia in the event of a war and I suspect that nationalism might have been involved in clouding their judgement. I honestly doubt NATO would even respond to a Russian invasion in the little fringe countries if they weren't already interested in a hot war. permalink fedilink source parent [+] satori@hexbear.net 9 points 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 35 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) To be clear, my comment was a joke about the lemm.ee admin saying we think Estonians are subhuman earlier this week. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Thordros@hexbear.net 23 points 3 years ago (1 child) I still wanna know what was up with that. I honestly haven't had a single thought in my head about Estonia since I skipped a lecture to go see Encino Man in the 90's. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ElHexo@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 3 years ago Yeah. The idea of a country that's the size of a medium suburb having any role in global geopolitics is funny. Like yeah, guys, that's great that you're in NATO. By the way Dallas, Phoenix, and San Anton are all going to join too, and they're going to have more clout than you by a silly margin. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 8 points 3 years ago he clearly misread "italians" as "estonians" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 23 points 3 years ago (1 child) I still wanna know what was up with that. I honestly haven't had a single thought in my head about Estonia since I skipped a lecture to go see Encino Man in the 90's. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ElHexo@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 3 years ago Yeah. The idea of a country that's the size of a medium suburb having any role in global geopolitics is funny. Like yeah, guys, that's great that you're in NATO. By the way Dallas, Phoenix, and San Anton are all going to join too, and they're going to have more clout than you by a silly margin. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ElHexo@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 3 years ago Yeah. The idea of a country that's the size of a medium suburb having any role in global geopolitics is funny. Like yeah, guys, that's great that you're in NATO. By the way Dallas, Phoenix, and San Anton are all going to join too, and they're going to have more clout than you by a silly margin. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 3 years ago Yeah. The idea of a country that's the size of a medium suburb having any role in global geopolitics is funny. Like yeah, guys, that's great that you're in NATO. By the way Dallas, Phoenix, and San Anton are all going to join too, and they're going to have more clout than you by a silly margin. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 8 points 3 years ago he clearly misread "italians" as "estonians" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StalinwasaGryffindor@hexbear.net 14 points 3 years ago (1 child) The weirdest thing about the baltics is how they love to act as rabid dogs for nato/US but in the event of an actual war between nato and russia the only purpose they serve is to give the ghouls in DC and the pentagon a couple extra minutes to get to the bunker permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 8 points 3 years ago I ran in to 1 (one) Baltic resident who was somehow convinced that their military would be a significant obstacle for Russia in the event of a war and I suspect that nationalism might have been involved in clouding their judgement. I honestly doubt NATO would even respond to a Russian invasion in the little fringe countries if they weren't already interested in a hot war. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frank@hexbear.net 8 points 3 years ago I ran in to 1 (one) Baltic resident who was somehow convinced that their military would be a significant obstacle for Russia in the event of a war and I suspect that nationalism might have been involved in clouding their judgement. I honestly doubt NATO would even respond to a Russian invasion in the little fringe countries if they weren't already interested in a hot war. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 35 points 3 years ago You have no idea the restraint it took for me not to post the "Estonians are slop-eating Hungarians" tweet at the lem.ee admin during that whole debacle permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 32 points 3 years ago (2 children) I thought it was Latvians. Potato people is too vague I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 43 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Eh. The Baltics are very small countries with... what's the nice way to say this... Fascist collaborationist governments that have worked hard to control the narrative, erase the crimes of the 30s and 40s, and create a questionable view of 20th century history. It's like any other country - Shitheads, none shitheads, and regular people in between. The official government line and the views of many citizens are hard right-wing, holocaust denial, and support for Nazi collaborators. You're going to run in to a lot of fash and fash-adjacent assholes. Edited bc I realized I've been saying Balkans instead of Baltics all day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 37 points 3 years ago (2 children) I think you mean Baltic. Just gonna also throw out that a ton of the world's stateless people live in the Baltic countries because they denied ethnic minorities citizenship after the fall of the USSR unlike every other former Soviet country. IIRC Lithuania isn't involved in that at least, I think just Estonia and Latvia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 27 points 3 years ago (1 child) Wow. I'm pretty sure that's a capital C Crime Against Humanity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 24 points 3 years ago (1 child) I believe most countries have signed an agreement never to create a stateless person due to how vulnerable they are to abuse. That's a why, for example, the claims that Shamina Begum was a Bangladeshi citizen when they revoked her citizenship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 17 points 3 years ago (1 child) I remember that. That was really fucked. Political exiles in the democracy loving freedom of speech west? Hardly surprising but very against the marketing. I still don't entirely understand what their purpose is with that. Is it a way to reinforce anti-immigrant rhetoric in preparation for some kind of V for Vendetta more fascist Britain thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 13 points 3 years ago Forces the Kurds and/or Bangladesh to deal with a terrorist so the Queen doesn't have to pay the costs of imprisoning her permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoGodsNoMasters@hexbear.net 6 points 3 years ago* Yeah it's pretty bad. You could conceivably have had parents born in the country and been born in the country yourself and still be denied citizenship in 1991 because they refused to recognise anything Soviet permalink fedilink source parent [–] D61@hexbear.net 30 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, no no... its only Italians. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 18 points 3 years ago (1 child) Why you cutta momma's heart lika-a da pizza. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 13 points 3 years ago MAMMA MIA! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frank@hexbear.net 43 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Eh. The Baltics are very small countries with... what's the nice way to say this... Fascist collaborationist governments that have worked hard to control the narrative, erase the crimes of the 30s and 40s, and create a questionable view of 20th century history. It's like any other country - Shitheads, none shitheads, and regular people in between. The official government line and the views of many citizens are hard right-wing, holocaust denial, and support for Nazi collaborators. You're going to run in to a lot of fash and fash-adjacent assholes. Edited bc I realized I've been saying Balkans instead of Baltics all day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 37 points 3 years ago (2 children) I think you mean Baltic. Just gonna also throw out that a ton of the world's stateless people live in the Baltic countries because they denied ethnic minorities citizenship after the fall of the USSR unlike every other former Soviet country. IIRC Lithuania isn't involved in that at least, I think just Estonia and Latvia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 27 points 3 years ago (1 child) Wow. I'm pretty sure that's a capital C Crime Against Humanity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 24 points 3 years ago (1 child) I believe most countries have signed an agreement never to create a stateless person due to how vulnerable they are to abuse. That's a why, for example, the claims that Shamina Begum was a Bangladeshi citizen when they revoked her citizenship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 17 points 3 years ago (1 child) I remember that. That was really fucked. Political exiles in the democracy loving freedom of speech west? Hardly surprising but very against the marketing. I still don't entirely understand what their purpose is with that. Is it a way to reinforce anti-immigrant rhetoric in preparation for some kind of V for Vendetta more fascist Britain thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 13 points 3 years ago Forces the Kurds and/or Bangladesh to deal with a terrorist so the Queen doesn't have to pay the costs of imprisoning her permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoGodsNoMasters@hexbear.net 6 points 3 years ago* Yeah it's pretty bad. You could conceivably have had parents born in the country and been born in the country yourself and still be denied citizenship in 1991 because they refused to recognise anything Soviet permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 37 points 3 years ago (2 children) I think you mean Baltic. Just gonna also throw out that a ton of the world's stateless people live in the Baltic countries because they denied ethnic minorities citizenship after the fall of the USSR unlike every other former Soviet country. IIRC Lithuania isn't involved in that at least, I think just Estonia and Latvia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 27 points 3 years ago (1 child) Wow. I'm pretty sure that's a capital C Crime Against Humanity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 24 points 3 years ago (1 child) I believe most countries have signed an agreement never to create a stateless person due to how vulnerable they are to abuse. That's a why, for example, the claims that Shamina Begum was a Bangladeshi citizen when they revoked her citizenship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 17 points 3 years ago (1 child) I remember that. That was really fucked. Political exiles in the democracy loving freedom of speech west? Hardly surprising but very against the marketing. I still don't entirely understand what their purpose is with that. Is it a way to reinforce anti-immigrant rhetoric in preparation for some kind of V for Vendetta more fascist Britain thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 13 points 3 years ago Forces the Kurds and/or Bangladesh to deal with a terrorist so the Queen doesn't have to pay the costs of imprisoning her permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoGodsNoMasters@hexbear.net 6 points 3 years ago* Yeah it's pretty bad. You could conceivably have had parents born in the country and been born in the country yourself and still be denied citizenship in 1991 because they refused to recognise anything Soviet permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frank@hexbear.net 27 points 3 years ago (1 child) Wow. I'm pretty sure that's a capital C Crime Against Humanity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 24 points 3 years ago (1 child) I believe most countries have signed an agreement never to create a stateless person due to how vulnerable they are to abuse. That's a why, for example, the claims that Shamina Begum was a Bangladeshi citizen when they revoked her citizenship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 17 points 3 years ago (1 child) I remember that. That was really fucked. Political exiles in the democracy loving freedom of speech west? Hardly surprising but very against the marketing. I still don't entirely understand what their purpose is with that. Is it a way to reinforce anti-immigrant rhetoric in preparation for some kind of V for Vendetta more fascist Britain thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 13 points 3 years ago Forces the Kurds and/or Bangladesh to deal with a terrorist so the Queen doesn't have to pay the costs of imprisoning her permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 24 points 3 years ago (1 child) I believe most countries have signed an agreement never to create a stateless person due to how vulnerable they are to abuse. That's a why, for example, the claims that Shamina Begum was a Bangladeshi citizen when they revoked her citizenship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 17 points 3 years ago (1 child) I remember that. That was really fucked. Political exiles in the democracy loving freedom of speech west? Hardly surprising but very against the marketing. I still don't entirely understand what their purpose is with that. Is it a way to reinforce anti-immigrant rhetoric in preparation for some kind of V for Vendetta more fascist Britain thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 13 points 3 years ago Forces the Kurds and/or Bangladesh to deal with a terrorist so the Queen doesn't have to pay the costs of imprisoning her permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frank@hexbear.net 17 points 3 years ago (1 child) I remember that. That was really fucked. Political exiles in the democracy loving freedom of speech west? Hardly surprising but very against the marketing. I still don't entirely understand what their purpose is with that. Is it a way to reinforce anti-immigrant rhetoric in preparation for some kind of V for Vendetta more fascist Britain thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 13 points 3 years ago Forces the Kurds and/or Bangladesh to deal with a terrorist so the Queen doesn't have to pay the costs of imprisoning her permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 13 points 3 years ago Forces the Kurds and/or Bangladesh to deal with a terrorist so the Queen doesn't have to pay the costs of imprisoning her permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NoGodsNoMasters@hexbear.net 6 points 3 years ago* Yeah it's pretty bad. You could conceivably have had parents born in the country and been born in the country yourself and still be denied citizenship in 1991 because they refused to recognise anything Soviet permalink fedilink source parent
[–] D61@hexbear.net 30 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, no no... its only Italians. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 18 points 3 years ago (1 child) Why you cutta momma's heart lika-a da pizza. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 13 points 3 years ago MAMMA MIA! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 18 points 3 years ago (1 child) Why you cutta momma's heart lika-a da pizza. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 13 points 3 years ago MAMMA MIA! permalink fedilink source parent