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They aren't a mod. They don't have power in the relationship. Just straight up.
Mods have a degree of power and control in the relationship that Ozma doesn't have; and you are giving me an excellent example of how they can use that power to structure and control a narrative.
Mods have a power that a user/ participant will never have.
And the example you are providing is a perfect example of what I want to highlight. The mods used their power to create the impression of a specific narrative, and you bought it. Other voices, objecting to this, were actively being suppressed in this very thread. But the mods have the power in the relationship, so you see at the top the comments you are highlighting: this is exactly the kind of abuse of power I intend to highlight. And your perceptions of what you think was happening is the exact effect I'm interesting in documenting.
And the key here, is that, in-spite of their power, reality has a way of coming around. Ozma was "right" in the sense that when history was finally written, they're on the right side of it, and Jordan is on the wrong side. Jordan won the narrative battle, but lost the narrative war. Jordan's ability to control and manage that narrative is perfectly on display in those top comments, but now, the narrative has shifted towards the narrative that Ozma was trying to construct and deliver.
More broadly, everyone is always trying to construct these kinds of narratives. You are trying to construct a narrative. I'm trying to construct a narrative. Ozma is trying to construct a narrative. Jordan is trying to construct a narrative. But only has Jordan has the ability to drop a ban hammer. That's the critical difference. Thats the power dynamic that is present.
Edit, to put a finer point on it.
Say in this thread the community is 90:10 in agreement with the ban. Lets say today that people would be 40:60 in favor of a ban. That's would be a 50 point swing in Ozma's favor.
Everyone knows I always obey what the mods want to shape, as the narrative. Especially Jordan.
If you accept a whole bunch of reframings of things into other things, then yes, this makes perfect sense. For example, you might say that because ozma can't say his viewpoint 15 times a day, but only as many times a day as other people who are posting a variety of viewpoints including criticism of the Democrats, that means his viewpoint was suppressed, on purpose because Jordan bans any constructive criticism of the Democrats, and so on.
I can't really add anything to what I've said already. You're welcome to have the interpretation you like of what happened. It sounds like you're pretty attached to your current one.
Okay, but you can at least agree that mods have a form of power that user/participants dont?
Sorry, did something I said sound like "I'd like to have an extended debate about this with you?" I think I've laid out pretty clearly how I feel about it and why at this point.
Lol. We get to the rub of the matter and you want to take your ball and go home.
I'm not stopping you from laying out your thing, you can still say it. I feel like it'll probably just be a reiteration of what you already said, which is why I don't really want to go back and forth about it, I got your point already and I felt like I said my thing in turn. But sure, go ahead.
Mods have a form of power that users/ participants in communities dont.
That's it. That's the thing in its entirety.